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		<title>By: On The Shelves: 8/2/06 &#124; Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/07/31/rip-claypool/comment-page-1/#comment-89133</link>
		<dc:creator>On The Shelves: 8/2/06 &#124; Guy LeCharles Gonzalez</dc:creator>
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<p>[...] The end is near, and it will come, predictably, not with a bang, but a whimper. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/07/31/rip-claypool/comment-page-1/#comment-31472</link>
		<dc:creator>Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Various voices have reacted to the news that Claypool will be ceasing print publication: [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] Various voices have reacted to the news that Claypool will be ceasing print publication: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew High</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/07/31/rip-claypool/comment-page-1/#comment-31437</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew High</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just stuck thinking of the old Monty Python &quot;bring out your dead&quot; skit, with Claypool plaintively crying, &quot;Er, we&#039;re not quite dead yet&quot; to Diamond rolling around with a wheelbarrow.  I&#039;ve had the feeling that Claypool has actually been &quot;dead&quot; as a comics publisher since last year, when Diamond gave them a reality check.  At that time, Claypool&#039;s comic book sales were already *way* below what Diamond considered the cutoff point (I think I worked out that Elvira was only reaching around 40-50% of the minimum, and the other books lower than that).  That&#039;s just waaaaay too much ground to make up, for a bunch of comic books that have ossified sales patterns.

One could argue it was a problem with content, or a problem with promotion.  One could argue it was a problem with the cover styles, or that customers just aren&#039;t interested in the stories themselves.

While I&#039;m sure Claypool&#039;s demise is complex and is due to many problems, I would argue instead that the main problem with Claypool was with *format*.  They realized far, far too late that the 32-page staplebound format is essentially a dead medium for indy comics publishers.  And, well, it has been dead for several years now.

Claypool obstinately REFUSED to publish any trade paperback collections at all.  I think there were four or five trades they published, about a decade ago, and that&#039;s it.  Want to read Elvira?  There&#039;s one or two trade paperbacks, but then you hafta go back and pick up 150+ individual comic book issues, some of which are a decade old and could never be found in local comic book stores.

Working for a distributor, I&#039;ve seen how comic book issue sales for indy and small-press titles have dwindled down to almost nothing.  Even long-running titles with built-in fan bases (like, say Gold Digger) are a hard sell in staplebound format.  In fact, I could pinpoint exactly when the switchover occurred -- just by looking back at stats.  In 2000, 1/3 of our sales were in trade paperbacks, 2/3 were in comic books.  The following year, those stats switched (almost exactly), and trade paperback sales haven&#039;t looked back.  I haven&#039;t run the stats in a while, but these days I would probably estimate that TPBs outsell comic book issues through us at a ratio somewhere between 10-1 and 20-1.  Anything in a staplebound format is a tough, tough sell these days, if you&#039;re a small publisher.

Claypool missed the trade paperback parade...or, for some inexplicable reason, they chose to defy it.  Who knows why -- I&#039;m sure plenty of retailers chastised them for not producing trade paperback collections.  If, say, three years ago they started publishing a trade paperback a month (Elvira one month, Deadbeats the next, Soulsearchers the next, then repeat), by now they would have a big library of trades for sale.  Not a bunch of comics with a one-month window of sales, but evergreens that keep selling year-after-year.  Plus, they would have opened a door to a much larger marketplace -- the mass market and bookstores -- where trade paperbacks outsell the direct market several times over.

So, people can argue Claypool failed for various reasons, but I would argue it was because they didn&#039;t change their format to suit the times.  At least, that&#039;s my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just stuck thinking of the old Monty Python &#8220;bring out your dead&#8221; skit, with Claypool plaintively crying, &#8220;Er, we&#8217;re not quite dead yet&#8221; to Diamond rolling around with a wheelbarrow.  I&#8217;ve had the feeling that Claypool has actually been &#8220;dead&#8221; as a comics publisher since last year, when Diamond gave them a reality check.  At that time, Claypool&#8217;s comic book sales were already *way* below what Diamond considered the cutoff point (I think I worked out that Elvira was only reaching around 40-50% of the minimum, and the other books lower than that).  That&#8217;s just waaaaay too much ground to make up, for a bunch of comic books that have ossified sales patterns.</p>
<p>One could argue it was a problem with content, or a problem with promotion.  One could argue it was a problem with the cover styles, or that customers just aren&#8217;t interested in the stories themselves.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m sure Claypool&#8217;s demise is complex and is due to many problems, I would argue instead that the main problem with Claypool was with *format*.  They realized far, far too late that the 32-page staplebound format is essentially a dead medium for indy comics publishers.  And, well, it has been dead for several years now.</p>
<p>Claypool obstinately REFUSED to publish any trade paperback collections at all.  I think there were four or five trades they published, about a decade ago, and that&#8217;s it.  Want to read Elvira?  There&#8217;s one or two trade paperbacks, but then you hafta go back and pick up 150+ individual comic book issues, some of which are a decade old and could never be found in local comic book stores.</p>
<p>Working for a distributor, I&#8217;ve seen how comic book issue sales for indy and small-press titles have dwindled down to almost nothing.  Even long-running titles with built-in fan bases (like, say Gold Digger) are a hard sell in staplebound format.  In fact, I could pinpoint exactly when the switchover occurred &#8212; just by looking back at stats.  In 2000, 1/3 of our sales were in trade paperbacks, 2/3 were in comic books.  The following year, those stats switched (almost exactly), and trade paperback sales haven&#8217;t looked back.  I haven&#8217;t run the stats in a while, but these days I would probably estimate that TPBs outsell comic book issues through us at a ratio somewhere between 10-1 and 20-1.  Anything in a staplebound format is a tough, tough sell these days, if you&#8217;re a small publisher.</p>
<p>Claypool missed the trade paperback parade&#8230;or, for some inexplicable reason, they chose to defy it.  Who knows why &#8212; I&#8217;m sure plenty of retailers chastised them for not producing trade paperback collections.  If, say, three years ago they started publishing a trade paperback a month (Elvira one month, Deadbeats the next, Soulsearchers the next, then repeat), by now they would have a big library of trades for sale.  Not a bunch of comics with a one-month window of sales, but evergreens that keep selling year-after-year.  Plus, they would have opened a door to a much larger marketplace &#8212; the mass market and bookstores &#8212; where trade paperbacks outsell the direct market several times over.</p>
<p>So, people can argue Claypool failed for various reasons, but I would argue it was because they didn&#8217;t change their format to suit the times.  At least, that&#8217;s my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/07/31/rip-claypool/comment-page-1/#comment-31434</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the wall doubtful myself, Jer. I suspect many retailers did more than order the titles for confirmed customers. 

Recent jumping-on point stunt aside, Claypool never seemed very friendly to new readers. They were a set of long-running series with few collections (and none recent) that looked, stylistically, as though they were a couple of decades old, even though they had a fairly good creator lineup. 

But I don&#039;t want to bash them when they&#039;re down. I do find it interesting that most of the recent &quot;going to the web instead of print&quot; announcements made sure readers were aware that eventual print collections would be available for purchase. This one didn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the wall doubtful myself, Jer. I suspect many retailers did more than order the titles for confirmed customers. </p>
<p>Recent jumping-on point stunt aside, Claypool never seemed very friendly to new readers. They were a set of long-running series with few collections (and none recent) that looked, stylistically, as though they were a couple of decades old, even though they had a fairly good creator lineup. </p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t want to bash them when they&#8217;re down. I do find it interesting that most of the recent &#8220;going to the web instead of print&#8221; announcements made sure readers were aware that eventual print collections would be available for purchase. This one didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/07/31/rip-claypool/comment-page-1/#comment-31418</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 12:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would think that Claypool would be at the point where retailers aren&#039;t buying more than filling their pre-orders and maybe a couple for the wall.  I could, of course, be wrong, but it would seem that the writing has been on the wall for Claypool for a long, long time.

At least they&#039;re going out with class -- letting everyone know this far in advance that they&#039;re winding down is a good move, for both the creators on the books and those fans that they have.  A lot better than insisting nothing is wrong until the day after they lock their doors and turn out the lights, at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would think that Claypool would be at the point where retailers aren&#8217;t buying more than filling their pre-orders and maybe a couple for the wall.  I could, of course, be wrong, but it would seem that the writing has been on the wall for Claypool for a long, long time.</p>
<p>At least they&#8217;re going out with class &#8212; letting everyone know this far in advance that they&#8217;re winding down is a good move, for both the creators on the books and those fans that they have.  A lot better than insisting nothing is wrong until the day after they lock their doors and turn out the lights, at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris, I bow to the master of snark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I bow to the master of snark.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/07/31/rip-claypool/comment-page-1/#comment-31394</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is very sad.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/07/31/rip-claypool/comment-page-1/#comment-31377</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I&#039;m glad they&#039;re adding another logo to their covers at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m glad they&#8217;re adding another logo to their covers at least.</p>
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