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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39686</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 16:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where does sneering at people anonymously because they made fun of someone making it all about them fit on your little scale? Just so I&#039;m totally well-informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does sneering at people anonymously because they made fun of someone making it all about them fit on your little scale? Just so I&#8217;m totally well-informed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kef</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39684</link>
		<dc:creator>Kef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;counting Andy Mangels, and a nice amount of self-promotion he ladled in there, too&quot;

Sneering at fictional gay characters: Wrong.
Sneering at real gay people just because they won&#039;t back up your attempt to show how really cool and enlightened and unprejudiced and right-on you are: Juuuuuust fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;counting Andy Mangels, and a nice amount of self-promotion he ladled in there, too&#8221;</p>
<p>Sneering at fictional gay characters: Wrong.<br />
Sneering at real gay people just because they won&#8217;t back up your attempt to show how really cool and enlightened and unprejudiced and right-on you are: Juuuuuust fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Denton</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39631</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Denton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fairness to Ross, I will say I appreciate his amplification and clarification of his original statement on the Prism Comics site (www.prismcomics.org).  I think it shows an appropriate level of contriteness and introspection into his word choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness to Ross, I will say I appreciate his amplification and clarification of his original statement on the Prism Comics site (www.prismcomics.org).  I think it shows an appropriate level of contriteness and introspection into his word choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Denton</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39564</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Denton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 01:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the main differences with pro&#039;s is that they _should_ be more careful. People do, rightly or wrongly, look up to them and give what they say more weight than they do other people. 

So when a very popular or respected creator like Ross makes a statement that essentially says &quot;being gay is a bad thing&quot; even implicitly people give that statement or sentiment a certain level of credibility that it doesn&#039;t necessarily deserve, but is higher than if average fan said it in the comic shop.  So, heterosexist thought and priviledge becomes reinforced.

Gay readers, especially young gay readers, potentially may have their self-image damaged because they give more credit to a statement by a pro than they would by average fan making the same comment or implication.

That&#039;s why it annoys me - professionals have a responsibility, a social and civic one, even if they don&#039;t realize it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the main differences with pro&#8217;s is that they _should_ be more careful. People do, rightly or wrongly, look up to them and give what they say more weight than they do other people. </p>
<p>So when a very popular or respected creator like Ross makes a statement that essentially says &#8220;being gay is a bad thing&#8221; even implicitly people give that statement or sentiment a certain level of credibility that it doesn&#8217;t necessarily deserve, but is higher than if average fan said it in the comic shop.  So, heterosexist thought and priviledge becomes reinforced.</p>
<p>Gay readers, especially young gay readers, potentially may have their self-image damaged because they give more credit to a statement by a pro than they would by average fan making the same comment or implication.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why it annoys me &#8211; professionals have a responsibility, a social and civic one, even if they don&#8217;t realize it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Galdieri</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39533</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Galdieri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow, this mini-controversy gives the Obsidian action figure Mattel&#039;s releasing next year a whole added layer of entertainment value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow, this mini-controversy gives the Obsidian action figure Mattel&#8217;s releasing next year a whole added layer of entertainment value.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Coyle</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39525</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Coyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 15:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I liked &lt;i&gt;Earth X&lt;/i&gt;, I wonder how Thomas feels about what Ross and Kreuger did in that series, because there&#039;s a lot there that I don&#039;t necessarily think he would approve of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I liked <i>Earth X</i>, I wonder how Thomas feels about what Ross and Kreuger did in that series, because there&#8217;s a lot there that I don&#8217;t necessarily think he would approve of.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39521</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for elaborating, Jer, those are good points. Bear in mind that sometimes, becoming a pro means that they&#039;re even MORE of a fan than many people, because they loved it so much that they kept pursuing it, even when other careers and fields would be more rewarding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for elaborating, Jer, those are good points. Bear in mind that sometimes, becoming a pro means that they&#8217;re even MORE of a fan than many people, because they loved it so much that they kept pursuing it, even when other careers and fields would be more rewarding.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39518</link>
		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You summarized this, but I really thought it was the best bit:

&quot;Roy told me that Obsidian&#039;s being gay was not necessarily inherent in the character from the beginning, but it&#039;s not offensive or ill-suited to who he was.&quot;

Roy Thomas told him that this was a change that made sense.  And I think its an even stronger statement here than saying &quot;Roy Thomas basically doesn&#039;t care&quot; - at least the way that Ross formulated the response, Thomas seems to be saying that it made some sense for the character to take that direction.  That would be enough for me to shuffle off with my tail between my legs if I was trying to make the &quot;creator disrespect&quot; argument.

I know that I have some of my own annoying fanboy tics when it comes to superhero comics that I harp on about (like the fact that it irritates me to no end that the companies always want superheroes to be more &quot;realistic&quot; and serious), but it irritates me to see stuff like this in creators.  I know it shouldn&#039;t - that the only difference between most of them and the folks I BS with at the comic store or online is the level of talent they have and the fact that they pursued a career in their chosen fandom - but I still think that they should be thinking a bit more about stuff like this than it seems like they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You summarized this, but I really thought it was the best bit:</p>
<p>&#8220;Roy told me that Obsidian&#8217;s being gay was not necessarily inherent in the character from the beginning, but it&#8217;s not offensive or ill-suited to who he was.&#8221;</p>
<p>Roy Thomas told him that this was a change that made sense.  And I think its an even stronger statement here than saying &#8220;Roy Thomas basically doesn&#8217;t care&#8221; &#8211; at least the way that Ross formulated the response, Thomas seems to be saying that it made some sense for the character to take that direction.  That would be enough for me to shuffle off with my tail between my legs if I was trying to make the &#8220;creator disrespect&#8221; argument.</p>
<p>I know that I have some of my own annoying fanboy tics when it comes to superhero comics that I harp on about (like the fact that it irritates me to no end that the companies always want superheroes to be more &#8220;realistic&#8221; and serious), but it irritates me to see stuff like this in creators.  I know it shouldn&#8217;t &#8211; that the only difference between most of them and the folks I BS with at the comic store or online is the level of talent they have and the fact that they pursued a career in their chosen fandom &#8211; but I still think that they should be thinking a bit more about stuff like this than it seems like they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dec. 15, 2006: Don&#8217;t ask Dr. Hal</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39509</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dec. 15, 2006: Don&#8217;t ask Dr. Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oooh, here&#8217;s one Alex Ross probably wouldn&#8217;t like: What if Captain America was gay? (Link via Johanna Draper Carlson.) [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Oooh, here&#8217;s one Alex Ross probably wouldn&#8217;t like: What if Captain America was gay? (Link via Johanna Draper Carlson.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2006/12/14/linky-blogging/comment-page-1/#comment-39493</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 06:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that was my immediate reaction upon reading his clarification. &quot;Oh, he&#039;s just gone the Byrne route. Shrug.&quot;

So in other words, yes, what he was saying is somewhat homophobic (in the sense that this society in general is homophobic and he&#039;s simply not examining his assumptions), but not actively offensive.

(I would assume he didn&#039;t object to Northstar&#039;s coming out, given his logic, but one never knows.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that was my immediate reaction upon reading his clarification. &#8220;Oh, he&#8217;s just gone the Byrne route. Shrug.&#8221;</p>
<p>So in other words, yes, what he was saying is somewhat homophobic (in the sense that this society in general is homophobic and he&#8217;s simply not examining his assumptions), but not actively offensive.</p>
<p>(I would assume he didn&#8217;t object to Northstar&#8217;s coming out, given his logic, but one never knows.)</p>
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