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		<title>By: Do You Have a Vision for Women in Comics? Friends of Lulu Needs Help » Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do You Have a Vision for Women in Comics? Friends of Lulu Needs Help » Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] announced a money-raising effort that ended in refunds, didn&#8217;t accomplish its goals, and made everyone look bad. The situation led to me questioning the need for the group in February 2007 and starting a [...]</description>
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<p>[...] announced a money-raising effort that ended in refunds, didn&#8217;t accomplish its goals, and made everyone look bad. The situation led to me questioning the need for the group in February 2007 and starting a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever Happened to Taki Soma? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whatever Happened to Taki Soma? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oeming, of course, is best-known for his art on Powers; he also created Mice Templar. I didn&#8217;t know Taki Soma was also an artist; I recalled her from the harassment fiasco that tarnished both the CBLDF and Friends of Lulu. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Oeming, of course, is best-known for his art on Powers; he also created Mice Templar. I didn&#8217;t know Taki Soma was also an artist; I recalled her from the harassment fiasco that tarnished both the CBLDF and Friends of Lulu. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: News Item Commentary LinkBlogging &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] figure out how to do that. I can&#8217;t imagine making printouts of my most impressive examples of journalism this year, and just sending a URL likely means being overlooked. Oh, well, maybe one day I&#8217;ll [...]</description>
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<p>[...] figure out how to do that. I can&#8217;t imagine making printouts of my most impressive examples of journalism this year, and just sending a URL likely means being overlooked. Oh, well, maybe one day I&#8217;ll [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Don MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47765</link>
		<dc:creator>Don MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Carrier wrote:
&lt;i&gt;RonÃƒÂ©e did make one statement in her response that probably ought to be followed up on: That her allegedly premature announcement of the Fund was in fact approved by FoL president Katie Merrit. Can anyone in FoL (or ideally, Katie herself) confirm or deny that was the case?&lt;/i&gt;

FoL&#039;s statement indicated there was no approval from the board. That&#039;s a direct statement. And yes, one could argue we&#039;re in a &quot;she said, she said&quot; situation, but it&#039;s not hard to see that it&#039;s Bourgeois who has a credibility problem.

There were concerns from the start about the kneejerk nature of the empowerment fund&#039;s establishment, and those expressing such concerns were lambasted publicly. Now it turns out those concerns were valid, and Bourgeois -- the driving force behind the fund -- has abdicated all responsibility. The FoL board has stepped up to clean up the mess and take responsibility (though it only came in the wake of Johanna&#039;s public prodding for answers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Carrier wrote:<br />
<i>RonÃƒÂ©e did make one statement in her response that probably ought to be followed up on: That her allegedly premature announcement of the Fund was in fact approved by FoL president Katie Merrit. Can anyone in FoL (or ideally, Katie herself) confirm or deny that was the case?</i></p>
<p>FoL&#8217;s statement indicated there was no approval from the board. That&#8217;s a direct statement. And yes, one could argue we&#8217;re in a &#8220;she said, she said&#8221; situation, but it&#8217;s not hard to see that it&#8217;s Bourgeois who has a credibility problem.</p>
<p>There were concerns from the start about the kneejerk nature of the empowerment fund&#8217;s establishment, and those expressing such concerns were lambasted publicly. Now it turns out those concerns were valid, and Bourgeois &#8212; the driving force behind the fund &#8212; has abdicated all responsibility. The FoL board has stepped up to clean up the mess and take responsibility (though it only came in the wake of Johanna&#8217;s public prodding for answers).</p>
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		<title>By: J. Kevin Carrier</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47762</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Kevin Carrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leaving aside personalities and such, RonÃƒÂ©e did make one statement in her response that probably ought to be followed up on: That her allegedly premature announcement of the Fund was in fact approved by FoL president Katie Merrit. Can anyone in FoL (or ideally, Katie herself) confirm or deny that was the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leaving aside personalities and such, RonÃƒÂ©e did make one statement in her response that probably ought to be followed up on: That her allegedly premature announcement of the Fund was in fact approved by FoL president Katie Merrit. Can anyone in FoL (or ideally, Katie herself) confirm or deny that was the case?</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47758</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll have to forgive me, Tekanji -- after over a decade of this kind of crap, it seems much simpler to me to go ahead and use the term before someone else does. I&#039;m sorry it became such a distraction to you and Ragnell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll have to forgive me, Tekanji &#8212; after over a decade of this kind of crap, it seems much simpler to me to go ahead and use the term before someone else does. I&#8217;m sorry it became such a distraction to you and Ragnell.</p>
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		<title>By: tekanji</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47755</link>
		<dc:creator>tekanji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johanna: Usually scare-quotes around a term are a good idea to let people know it&#039;s ironic rather than used because you think it&#039;s a good term. In Ragnell&#039;s reading, as well as my own, your use of catfight came across as completely serious, hence the problem.

The rest of your comment towards me is addressing something I wasn&#039;t saying. Ragnell&#039;s criticism was what I was referring to, not RonÃƒÂ©e&#039;s. If RonÃƒÂ©e had some valid points they were lost in her specious logic and sexist language, at least for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna: Usually scare-quotes around a term are a good idea to let people know it&#8217;s ironic rather than used because you think it&#8217;s a good term. In Ragnell&#8217;s reading, as well as my own, your use of catfight came across as completely serious, hence the problem.</p>
<p>The rest of your comment towards me is addressing something I wasn&#8217;t saying. Ragnell&#8217;s criticism was what I was referring to, not RonÃƒÂ©e&#8217;s. If RonÃƒÂ©e had some valid points they were lost in her specious logic and sexist language, at least for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Trying to Make Lemonade &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47746</link>
		<dc:creator>Trying to Make Lemonade &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Hey, at least the controversy I helped uncover doesn&#8217;t involve actual lawyers [...]</description>
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<p>[...] (Hey, at least the controversy I helped uncover doesn&#8217;t involve actual lawyers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47744</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, people create reputations for themselves through their actions and reactions, and others use those reputations in judging their later choices. Leigh has been vouched for to me by someone I trust. Ronee, well, we&#039;ve all seen what her ideas of appropriate behavior are, and as you point out, she seems to be a certain personality type that tends to attract drama. 

For every old adage, there&#039;s a contradictory one, like &quot;you made your bed, you lie in it&quot;. Or something about chickens coming home to roost. But after a certain point, that all just becomes word games. I&#039;d be happy to never have to hear her name again, myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, people create reputations for themselves through their actions and reactions, and others use those reputations in judging their later choices. Leigh has been vouched for to me by someone I trust. Ronee, well, we&#8217;ve all seen what her ideas of appropriate behavior are, and as you point out, she seems to be a certain personality type that tends to attract drama. </p>
<p>For every old adage, there&#8217;s a contradictory one, like &#8220;you made your bed, you lie in it&#8221;. Or something about chickens coming home to roost. But after a certain point, that all just becomes word games. I&#8217;d be happy to never have to hear her name again, myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Huxford</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47740</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Huxford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What this looks like from the sidelines: 

1. Everyone jumping to believe Ronee has screwed everyone because of resentments leftover from the sexual assault reporting.
2. Everyone giving Leigh the benefit of the doubt...because she&#039;s not Ronee. 

Ronee is a polarizing personality that many seem to dislike. I&#039;m more neutral on her, so it becomes easier to see some of the accidental hypocrisy here.

1. Ronee called some other women names and employed certain language...and that makes her not a feminist? But others using the same language (for...you know...nicer reasons) are OK? Don&#039;t both have the potential to &quot;hurt the cause&quot;, even if to varying degrees? 
2. Wouldn&#039;t it be more appropriate for Leigh to either air the whole damned thing (i.e. specifically say how everyone was actually victimized) or keep it all in the family?

Honestly...aren&#039;t we in danger of the same thing happening to Ronee (on a smaller scale) that happened to McLaughlin, in a sense? The language being used by Leigh can imply any number of possible &quot;inappropriate&quot; actions by Ronee...from mistakes/small stuff to having tried to use the empowerment fun for personal gain (and not just by getting her name out there in press releases). I know people can see some karma to that, but the old adage is &quot;two wrongs don&#039;t make a right&quot;.

Don&#039;t get me wrong...I think Ronee has been one of those people who gets addicted to seeing their name out there. I think everyone can experience a bit of a high from having people know your name and talk about you, to some extent. Its only when you get addicted to it (which I think she at least was for a time) that it becomes a problem.

In regards to some statements about charity law as it might apply to the fund: If the only cause the short-lived fund had the chance to help was the Taki case, how does that necessarily make it a fund for just one individual? It had its cause, was serving its cause, and was aborted before anyone else was able to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What this looks like from the sidelines: </p>
<p>1. Everyone jumping to believe Ronee has screwed everyone because of resentments leftover from the sexual assault reporting.<br />
2. Everyone giving Leigh the benefit of the doubt&#8230;because she&#8217;s not Ronee. </p>
<p>Ronee is a polarizing personality that many seem to dislike. I&#8217;m more neutral on her, so it becomes easier to see some of the accidental hypocrisy here.</p>
<p>1. Ronee called some other women names and employed certain language&#8230;and that makes her not a feminist? But others using the same language (for&#8230;you know&#8230;nicer reasons) are OK? Don&#8217;t both have the potential to &#8220;hurt the cause&#8221;, even if to varying degrees?<br />
2. Wouldn&#8217;t it be more appropriate for Leigh to either air the whole damned thing (i.e. specifically say how everyone was actually victimized) or keep it all in the family?</p>
<p>Honestly&#8230;aren&#8217;t we in danger of the same thing happening to Ronee (on a smaller scale) that happened to McLaughlin, in a sense? The language being used by Leigh can imply any number of possible &#8220;inappropriate&#8221; actions by Ronee&#8230;from mistakes/small stuff to having tried to use the empowerment fun for personal gain (and not just by getting her name out there in press releases). I know people can see some karma to that, but the old adage is &#8220;two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right&#8221;.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230;I think Ronee has been one of those people who gets addicted to seeing their name out there. I think everyone can experience a bit of a high from having people know your name and talk about you, to some extent. Its only when you get addicted to it (which I think she at least was for a time) that it becomes a problem.</p>
<p>In regards to some statements about charity law as it might apply to the fund: If the only cause the short-lived fund had the chance to help was the Taki case, how does that necessarily make it a fund for just one individual? It had its cause, was serving its cause, and was aborted before anyone else was able to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Keller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Keller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoth Michael Netzer&lt;i&gt;The description based on the information she had was vague enough that it could have been any number of people.&lt;/i&gt;

No, Sir, it was not.

Ronnee&#039;s reporting on the matter clearly said:  Male.  President. Organization that helps Creators.

That&#039;s not the CBLDF and it&#039;s NOT the FOL. (Hint:  The CBLDF does not have a position of &quot;president&quot;, nor is it a charity that exists to help creators.  It&#039;s a First Amendment organization.)

Based on that, many people looked at the ONE Comics Charity organization that had a male president and helps Creators and quickly said, &quot;Jim McLauchlin.&quot;

Ronee is &lt;b&gt;very lucky&lt;/b&gt; she didn&#039;t get her ass sued over that bit of incredibly sloppy reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoth Michael Netzer<i>The description based on the information she had was vague enough that it could have been any number of people.</i></p>
<p>No, Sir, it was not.</p>
<p>Ronnee&#8217;s reporting on the matter clearly said:  Male.  President. Organization that helps Creators.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the CBLDF and it&#8217;s NOT the FOL. (Hint:  The CBLDF does not have a position of &#8220;president&#8221;, nor is it a charity that exists to help creators.  It&#8217;s a First Amendment organization.)</p>
<p>Based on that, many people looked at the ONE Comics Charity organization that had a male president and helps Creators and quickly said, &#8220;Jim McLauchlin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ronee is <b>very lucky</b> she didn&#8217;t get her ass sued over that bit of incredibly sloppy reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47715</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netzer: The problem is that Ronee tried to play coy instead of naming names. Her description could not have &quot;been any number of people&quot;, but only a couple. The other problem is that she didn&#039;t correct the misapprehensions until forced to. 

And of course the language one chooses to use is relevant. It always is. 

And now I am stopping you from further posting, because you are adding nothing to this venue and I have other things I need to do besides babysitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netzer: The problem is that Ronee tried to play coy instead of naming names. Her description could not have &#8220;been any number of people&#8221;, but only a couple. The other problem is that she didn&#8217;t correct the misapprehensions until forced to. </p>
<p>And of course the language one chooses to use is relevant. It always is. </p>
<p>And now I am stopping you from further posting, because you are adding nothing to this venue and I have other things I need to do besides babysitting.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Netzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Netzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don: Maybe you also misunderstand what I said (some of which has been removed from the comments). WHO NAMED McGLAUGHLIN? WHY ARE THEY NOT CRITICIZED? I&#039;m not speaking about motives. The description based on the information she had was vague enough that it could have been any number of people. Ronee is being taken to task for what others did by naming him. SHE DIDN&#039;T DO IT. The question also isn&#039;t Ronee&#039;s manner or the language she uses. That&#039;s irrelevant. People can be slandered with pretty words also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don: Maybe you also misunderstand what I said (some of which has been removed from the comments). WHO NAMED McGLAUGHLIN? WHY ARE THEY NOT CRITICIZED? I&#8217;m not speaking about motives. The description based on the information she had was vague enough that it could have been any number of people. Ronee is being taken to task for what others did by naming him. SHE DIDN&#8217;T DO IT. The question also isn&#8217;t Ronee&#8217;s manner or the language she uses. That&#8217;s irrelevant. People can be slandered with pretty words also.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47714</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, when the same person is posting so often as appearing to be flooding, my spam filter gets a little overzealous. I&#039;m trying to recover what I can. 

Since you&#039;re trying to lecture on giving people the benefit of the doubt, though, you might try the same in my case, instead of jumping to such negative conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, when the same person is posting so often as appearing to be flooding, my spam filter gets a little overzealous. I&#8217;m trying to recover what I can. </p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re trying to lecture on giving people the benefit of the doubt, though, you might try the same in my case, instead of jumping to such negative conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Netzer</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47712</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Netzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johanna: Open comment policy? Open as long as you delete comments that disagree with you? Is this how you&#039;d like people are to come to an informed opinion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna: Open comment policy? Open as long as you delete comments that disagree with you? Is this how you&#8217;d like people are to come to an informed opinion?</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Mayerson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger Mayerson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don&#039;t understand. Leigh and Ronee have both said that money from the Fund was spent on defraying Taki Soma&#039;s legal fees. So how are FoL paying for this &quot;full refund&quot;?&lt;/i&gt;

According to the Center for Nonprofit Management in Los Angeles, a California 501(c)3 nonprofit organization cannot raise money for an individual&#039;s use, only for groups, events, other organizations, and stuff like that.  I can&#039;t find FoL&#039;s mission statement, but their FAQ says nothing about raising money for use by an individual for anything.  So, FoL is doing the right thing in refunding all the money they raised.  Good on them.  If FoL wants to become a legal defense fund, they only have to change a few things in their filing at most, or just change their mission statement at least.  A fund for sexual harassment in comics would be unique, at the very least.  I don&#039;t know how much they gave Taki Soma and how much of hit this is for FoL financially.  FoL might not survive this.

Leigh Dragoon has nothing to apologize for.  These are trying circumstances, she&#039;s taking a lot of heat, and she&#039;s handling the situation very well.

There&#039;s a lot of blame flying around.  Just for the record, I blame Ronnee.  Her handling of the announcement of the Fund, as a direct or indirect result of her handling of the Soma/Brownstein mess has impacted my perception FoL and, to some extent, CBLDF.  It almost seems that FoL was used by Ronnee, and used hard, to bash CBLDF.  And why?  Does anyone know?  And why did the FoL board allow it?  Those are my questions and if you don&#039;t like them, I have others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don&#8217;t understand. Leigh and Ronee have both said that money from the Fund was spent on defraying Taki Soma&#8217;s legal fees. So how are FoL paying for this &#8220;full refund&#8221;?</i></p>
<p>According to the Center for Nonprofit Management in Los Angeles, a California 501(c)3 nonprofit organization cannot raise money for an individual&#8217;s use, only for groups, events, other organizations, and stuff like that.  I can&#8217;t find FoL&#8217;s mission statement, but their FAQ says nothing about raising money for use by an individual for anything.  So, FoL is doing the right thing in refunding all the money they raised.  Good on them.  If FoL wants to become a legal defense fund, they only have to change a few things in their filing at most, or just change their mission statement at least.  A fund for sexual harassment in comics would be unique, at the very least.  I don&#8217;t know how much they gave Taki Soma and how much of hit this is for FoL financially.  FoL might not survive this.</p>
<p>Leigh Dragoon has nothing to apologize for.  These are trying circumstances, she&#8217;s taking a lot of heat, and she&#8217;s handling the situation very well.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot of blame flying around.  Just for the record, I blame Ronnee.  Her handling of the announcement of the Fund, as a direct or indirect result of her handling of the Soma/Brownstein mess has impacted my perception FoL and, to some extent, CBLDF.  It almost seems that FoL was used by Ronnee, and used hard, to bash CBLDF.  And why?  Does anyone know?  And why did the FoL board allow it?  Those are my questions and if you don&#8217;t like them, I have others.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmm... the benefits of an open comment policy. 

Netzer: I can see that you&#039;re the type that has to have the last word, and I see no further use in attempting to reconcile our very different realities. I&#039;m confident that readers can come to their own conclusions about who&#039;s tossing around the &quot;vile charges&quot; and who started what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm&#8230; the benefits of an open comment policy. </p>
<p>Netzer: I can see that you&#8217;re the type that has to have the last word, and I see no further use in attempting to reconcile our very different realities. I&#8217;m confident that readers can come to their own conclusions about who&#8217;s tossing around the &#8220;vile charges&#8221; and who started what.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Netzer</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47681</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Netzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;You&#039;ve seized on the word &quot;oddly&quot; and completely ignored the word &quot;similarly&quot;, which is the point. And of course she&#039;s unjustly defaming others -- that&#039;s what her &quot;they need to get laid&quot; comment is, not to mention blaming the &quot;bitches&quot;. Check the log in your eye before trying to point out others&#039; splinters.&lt;/i&gt;

The difference is that Ronee is defending herself from vile charges leveled at her unjustly. She didn&#039;t start this. It&#039;s not the same. You&#039;re only looking at one side. I&#039;m looking at both and I can clearly see that she&#039;s been wronged on the fund charges. You yourself hint to as much. I think you can be a little more forthright and say it clearly. But then, you&#039;d also have to check the stuff in the eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;You&#8217;ve seized on the word &#8220;oddly&#8221; and completely ignored the word &#8220;similarly&#8221;, which is the point. And of course she&#8217;s unjustly defaming others &#8212; that&#8217;s what her &#8220;they need to get laid&#8221; comment is, not to mention blaming the &#8220;bitches&#8221;. Check the log in your eye before trying to point out others&#8217; splinters.</i></p>
<p>The difference is that Ronee is defending herself from vile charges leveled at her unjustly. She didn&#8217;t start this. It&#8217;s not the same. You&#8217;re only looking at one side. I&#8217;m looking at both and I can clearly see that she&#8217;s been wronged on the fund charges. You yourself hint to as much. I think you can be a little more forthright and say it clearly. But then, you&#8217;d also have to check the stuff in the eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: ok, I hadn&#039;t thought of that, good point. But I have to wonder if PayPal will cooperate with something like that. (I don&#039;t have a very good opinion of their organization.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: ok, I hadn&#8217;t thought of that, good point. But I have to wonder if PayPal will cooperate with something like that. (I don&#8217;t have a very good opinion of their organization.)</p>
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		<title>By: Don MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2007/03/06/more-friends-of-lulu-response/comment-page-1/#comment-47703</link>
		<dc:creator>Don MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whereas I must apologize for my poor attempt html coding. :(</description>
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