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	<title>Comments on: Advance Slush: Rogue Angel, Hazed, Noble Causes</title>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-85721</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes sense. Thanks for following up. I feel the same way about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/19/this-week-on-tcm-20/&quot;&gt;Fountainhead&lt;/a&gt;, as an example I hesitate to open again but the best one I could think of -- no novel appeal, but I enjoyed the film.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes sense. Thanks for following up. I feel the same way about the <a href="http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/19/this-week-on-tcm-20/">Fountainhead</a>, as an example I hesitate to open again but the best one I could think of &#8212; no novel appeal, but I enjoyed the film.</p>
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		<title>By: MLO</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-85710</link>
		<dc:creator>MLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It just seems I like some books better as visual media than others.  A lot of books that make great movies or graphic novels hold no appeal for me as a novel.  It really is just a personal preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just seems I like some books better as visual media than others.  A lot of books that make great movies or graphic novels hold no appeal for me as a novel.  It really is just a personal preference.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-85261</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hee hee, I like your euphemism. No, I didn&#039;t see the need for a sorority (especially since my college only had locals due to past problems, and they killed one of their pledges during my time there). I did belong to a (co-ed) fraternity, but that&#039;s not at all the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hee hee, I like your euphemism. No, I didn&#8217;t see the need for a sorority (especially since my college only had locals due to past problems, and they killed one of their pledges during my time there). I did belong to a (co-ed) fraternity, but that&#8217;s not at all the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sable</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-85254</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 09:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think with comics, particularly superhero comics, there&#039;s a tradition of... let&#039;s euphemistically say &quot;building upon others work&quot;, so I can see how the word &quot;stole&quot; could easily be thrown out without intending to imply

I wish my response was as restrained as your apology (which I accept) was classy.  

When I wrote Hazed I expected a polarized reaction and I perfectly happy to accept the consequences, even if it means turning off reviewers I respect.   In its previous incarnations (the play, the screenplay and various versions of the OGN) I&#039;ve had some readers express opinions similar to yours.  At the same time I&#039;ve had a lot of audience members/readers (particularly women who&#039;d been in sororities) say that the way I captured what they&#039;d gone through was uncanny. 

If it&#039;s not too personal a question, were you in a sorority?  I ask not because it makes your review any more or less valid, but it&#039;s just interesting to see demograhpically where both the positive and negative reactions come from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think with comics, particularly superhero comics, there&#8217;s a tradition of&#8230; let&#8217;s euphemistically say &#8220;building upon others work&#8221;, so I can see how the word &#8220;stole&#8221; could easily be thrown out without intending to imply</p>
<p>I wish my response was as restrained as your apology (which I accept) was classy.  </p>
<p>When I wrote Hazed I expected a polarized reaction and I perfectly happy to accept the consequences, even if it means turning off reviewers I respect.   In its previous incarnations (the play, the screenplay and various versions of the OGN) I&#8217;ve had some readers express opinions similar to yours.  At the same time I&#8217;ve had a lot of audience members/readers (particularly women who&#8217;d been in sororities) say that the way I captured what they&#8217;d gone through was uncanny. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not too personal a question, were you in a sorority?  I ask not because it makes your review any more or less valid, but it&#8217;s just interesting to see demograhpically where both the positive and negative reactions come from.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-84675</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your publisher sent me (and others) a PDF. It was marked final, but if there&#039;s a question of which version it was, I dunno, ask them. 

I apologize by going too far in the language I used to point out your story and Mean Girls use very similar plot points. As a reader, the movie came before your comic to me. I believe you when you say you came up with it independently, but maybe your publisher needs to lighten up on those comparisons to avoid others being misled. Most readers aren&#039;t going to know about your play, and they&#039;re going to assume that your comic was written (or at least revised and edited) more recently, so if too many similarities are there, they&#039;re on purpose. 

Thanks for stopping by and setting the record straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your publisher sent me (and others) a PDF. It was marked final, but if there&#8217;s a question of which version it was, I dunno, ask them. </p>
<p>I apologize by going too far in the language I used to point out your story and Mean Girls use very similar plot points. As a reader, the movie came before your comic to me. I believe you when you say you came up with it independently, but maybe your publisher needs to lighten up on those comparisons to avoid others being misled. Most readers aren&#8217;t going to know about your play, and they&#8217;re going to assume that your comic was written (or at least revised and edited) more recently, so if too many similarities are there, they&#8217;re on purpose. </p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and setting the record straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sable</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-84656</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Mark Sable, the writer/creator of HAZED.  I normally don&#039;t respond to reviews.  And while I don&#039;t begrudge you your harsh review,I thought there were some things that needed to be addressed.

First, I&#039;m not sure what you based your review on.  As the book isn&#039;t out yet, I can only assume it was a PDF.  Not having sent you a PDF myself, I have no idea whether it&#039;s the final print version or not (unlikely, since it&#039;s not yet gone to the printer).  That may or may not affect your judgment of the book, but I thought your readers should be aware of that.

What I really take issue with, however, is your comment that &quot;the writer (me) has stolen some plot points directly from the latter (the film &quot;Mean Girls&quot;)&quot;.  That is false, and demonstrably so.  HAZED is based on a stage play that was produced in the late nineties, as well as a screenplay adaptation of said play that was registered with the WGA well before a script for &quot;Mean Girls&quot; existed.

While I don&#039;t expect you to be aware of those facts, I think it&#039;s highly irresponsible, not to mention unprofessional, to make an accusation of plagiarism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Mark Sable, the writer/creator of HAZED.  I normally don&#8217;t respond to reviews.  And while I don&#8217;t begrudge you your harsh review,I thought there were some things that needed to be addressed.</p>
<p>First, I&#8217;m not sure what you based your review on.  As the book isn&#8217;t out yet, I can only assume it was a PDF.  Not having sent you a PDF myself, I have no idea whether it&#8217;s the final print version or not (unlikely, since it&#8217;s not yet gone to the printer).  That may or may not affect your judgment of the book, but I thought your readers should be aware of that.</p>
<p>What I really take issue with, however, is your comment that &#8220;the writer (me) has stolen some plot points directly from the latter (the film &#8220;Mean Girls&#8221;)&#8221;.  That is false, and demonstrably so.  HAZED is based on a stage play that was produced in the late nineties, as well as a screenplay adaptation of said play that was registered with the WGA well before a script for &#8220;Mean Girls&#8221; existed.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t expect you to be aware of those facts, I think it&#8217;s highly irresponsible, not to mention unprofessional, to make an accusation of plagiarism.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-84609</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the mystical sword is a cool effect that would likely work better in a visual medium... but what about the novels didn&#039;t work for you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the mystical sword is a cool effect that would likely work better in a visual medium&#8230; but what about the novels didn&#8217;t work for you?</p>
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		<title>By: MLO</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/01/27/advance-slush-rogue-angel-hazed-noble-causes/comment-page-1/#comment-84596</link>
		<dc:creator>MLO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rogue Angel may just work better as a comic than it does as a novel.  The novels don&#039;t quite work.

Pax,

MLO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rogue Angel may just work better as a comic than it does as a novel.  The novels don&#8217;t quite work.</p>
<p>Pax,</p>
<p>MLO</p>
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