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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-88239</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also forgot to mention, our press releases clearly state where this magazine is coming from on all ends. So end of story there. 

My &quot;content issue&quot; comment was about Tim&#039;s confusion why we chose to run that article. Not on CF&#039;s content. So I was clearing up a content question he had for our issue. Nothing more, nothing less. If anyone is going to Pittsburgh ComicCon, stop by our trivia panel - our third year hosting!

I do get a kick out of the suggestion that CGS is considered a business though. That&#039;s awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also forgot to mention, our press releases clearly state where this magazine is coming from on all ends. So end of story there. </p>
<p>My &#8220;content issue&#8221; comment was about Tim&#8217;s confusion why we chose to run that article. Not on CF&#8217;s content. So I was clearing up a content question he had for our issue. Nothing more, nothing less. If anyone is going to Pittsburgh ComicCon, stop by our trivia panel &#8211; our third year hosting!</p>
<p>I do get a kick out of the suggestion that CGS is considered a business though. That&#8217;s awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-88209</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, Peter, please, no more spatting. Both of you have exciting-looking second issues coming out, and I look forward to them both. Let&#039;s move on to focus on those improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, Peter, please, no more spatting. Both of you have exciting-looking second issues coming out, and I look forward to them both. Let&#8217;s move on to focus on those improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Hudson</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-88197</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, the issue isn&#039;t that Tim didn&#039;t make a mistake.  It&#039;s that it had absolutely no bearing on his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.juvalamu.com/qmarks/&quot;&gt;professional&lt;/a&gt; design criticism of your mag, and it was kind of ridiculous of you to try and negate those criticisms based on his (lack of) knowledge about a marginal Marvel character.  As far as that reflects on CF&#039;s content--as you suggest--Tim&#039;s not the only person writing the mag, and some of us could certainly give you a run for your money in the Marvel trivia department.

Also, not identifying your business connections was a beginner&#039;s mistake.  So what?  Just admit it, learn from it, and stop defending yourself with t-shirts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, the issue isn&#8217;t that Tim didn&#8217;t make a mistake.  It&#8217;s that it had absolutely no bearing on his <a href="http://www.juvalamu.com/qmarks/">professional</a> design criticism of your mag, and it was kind of ridiculous of you to try and negate those criticisms based on his (lack of) knowledge about a marginal Marvel character.  As far as that reflects on CF&#8217;s content&#8211;as you suggest&#8211;Tim&#8217;s not the only person writing the mag, and some of us could certainly give you a run for your money in the Marvel trivia department.</p>
<p>Also, not identifying your business connections was a beginner&#8217;s mistake.  So what?  Just admit it, learn from it, and stop defending yourself with t-shirts.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-88183</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering what t-shirt someone&#039;s wearing isn&#039;t a standard way to disclose business connections. (I mean, come on! There are pictures of me wearing a Blankets graphic novel shirt, but I&#039;ve never worked for Top Shelf.) And there are also ads in the magazine for other companies -- are we to assume that they&#039;re all connected? 

There&#039;s a big difference between saying &quot;they&#039;re two separate ventures&quot; and not giving readers the information they need to know to evaluate connections and potential influences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering what t-shirt someone&#8217;s wearing isn&#8217;t a standard way to disclose business connections. (I mean, come on! There are pictures of me wearing a Blankets graphic novel shirt, but I&#8217;ve never worked for Top Shelf.) And there are also ads in the magazine for other companies &#8212; are we to assume that they&#8217;re all connected? </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a big difference between saying &#8220;they&#8217;re two separate ventures&#8221; and not giving readers the information they need to know to evaluate connections and potential influences.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-88154</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan! Thanks for your review! I did link my name to the CGS website but I took for granted that I posted in Johanna&#039;s CNow! post. 

Laura - come on - if we&#039;re supposed to take valid criticisms from a &quot;professional&quot; magazine designer, surely Tim can take a valid criticism from a &quot;professional&quot; comics reader. Especially considering I wasn&#039;t the only one who commented on the blunder. Ultimately, it&#039;s a content issue, not a design issue. So it doesn&#039;t really change my opinion. 

Johanna - the article does mention the new series. And the picture for the EIC has both Bryan and daughter wearing a CGS shirt. It&#039;s also hard to miss the giant full page ad near the back. lol. There&#039;s no secret that some of the hosts of CGS are behind CN. But it&#039;s a completely separate venture. We want CN to live on its own. It&#039;s not a glory project for the podcast to benefit from. It&#039;s to put out the kind of magazine we want to read. And from our numbers, it seems like others agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan! Thanks for your review! I did link my name to the CGS website but I took for granted that I posted in Johanna&#8217;s CNow! post. </p>
<p>Laura &#8211; come on &#8211; if we&#8217;re supposed to take valid criticisms from a &#8220;professional&#8221; magazine designer, surely Tim can take a valid criticism from a &#8220;professional&#8221; comics reader. Especially considering I wasn&#8217;t the only one who commented on the blunder. Ultimately, it&#8217;s a content issue, not a design issue. So it doesn&#8217;t really change my opinion. </p>
<p>Johanna &#8211; the article does mention the new series. And the picture for the EIC has both Bryan and daughter wearing a CGS shirt. It&#8217;s also hard to miss the giant full page ad near the back. lol. There&#8217;s no secret that some of the hosts of CGS are behind CN. But it&#8217;s a completely separate venture. We want CN to live on its own. It&#8217;s not a glory project for the podcast to benefit from. It&#8217;s to put out the kind of magazine we want to read. And from our numbers, it seems like others agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87831</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I didn&#039;t know there was a Nova series either. I don&#039;t think that oversight makes Tim&#039;s knowledge of magazine design moot, especially since the problems he mentions were noted by several others (although not in the depth he covered them). 

Did the Comics Now article even mention the series? I just recall it talking about Annihilation, but I had zoned out by the end of the article.

The bigger question hinted at by several commenters is that of conflict of interest. I don&#039;t recall CN explicitly mentioning anything about its guiding staff being associated with CGS, which I would expect as a standard inclusion if the mag covers the CGS podcast. (You know, the way EW says something about having the same corporate parents when they do an article about something at WB.) There are a lot of connections that are only mentioned when third parties know to look for them, as Alan did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I didn&#8217;t know there was a Nova series either. I don&#8217;t think that oversight makes Tim&#8217;s knowledge of magazine design moot, especially since the problems he mentions were noted by several others (although not in the depth he covered them). </p>
<p>Did the Comics Now article even mention the series? I just recall it talking about Annihilation, but I had zoned out by the end of the article.</p>
<p>The bigger question hinted at by several commenters is that of conflict of interest. I don&#8217;t recall CN explicitly mentioning anything about its guiding staff being associated with CGS, which I would expect as a standard inclusion if the mag covers the CGS podcast. (You know, the way EW says something about having the same corporate parents when they do an article about something at WB.) There are a lot of connections that are only mentioned when third parties know to look for them, as Alan did.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Coward</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87788</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Alan.  I hope that I didn&#039;t lead anyone to think that I was just some random guy coming onto Johanna&#039;s blog to stir up trouble.  In the future, if I am directly involved in the content I am commenting on, I will identify myself in the appropriate manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Alan.  I hope that I didn&#8217;t lead anyone to think that I was just some random guy coming onto Johanna&#8217;s blog to stir up trouble.  In the future, if I am directly involved in the content I am commenting on, I will identify myself in the appropriate manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Coil</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87787</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Coil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked both magazines, so there.

Peter, Laura, and Derek,

You never know when a reader is being exposed to you or your product for the first time. It might be a good idea to state for which magazine you work. Because I have too much free time, I searched for that information. Others might not. Peter and Derek work for Comic Now! and Laura for Comic Foundry.

If anybody cares what I thought at first glance...

http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony/?frames=n;read=167418</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked both magazines, so there.</p>
<p>Peter, Laura, and Derek,</p>
<p>You never know when a reader is being exposed to you or your product for the first time. It might be a good idea to state for which magazine you work. Because I have too much free time, I searched for that information. Others might not. Peter and Derek work for Comic Now! and Laura for Comic Foundry.</p>
<p>If anybody cares what I thought at first glance&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony/?frames=n;read=167418" rel="nofollow">http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/tony/?frames=n;read=167418</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87782</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 00:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Peter&#039;s comment made on the CF site.  I also almost stopped reading the article after that Nova slip up.  It is one thing to be mistaken about something in passing, it is another thing entirely when it throws a wrench in one of your early criticisms.

Still, we will see with later issues what Comics Now will take to heart.  And since I have preordered issue two, I am anxious to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Peter&#8217;s comment made on the CF site.  I also almost stopped reading the article after that Nova slip up.  It is one thing to be mistaken about something in passing, it is another thing entirely when it throws a wrench in one of your early criticisms.</p>
<p>Still, we will see with later issues what Comics Now will take to heart.  And since I have preordered issue two, I am anxious to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Coward</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87763</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Coward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand one thing:  Does accepting criticism gracefully include overlooking obvious errors, such as implying that the author of the podcasting column is a part of CGS even when it is mentioned that he is not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand one thing:  Does accepting criticism gracefully include overlooking obvious errors, such as implying that the author of the podcasting column is a part of CGS even when it is mentioned that he is not?</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Hudson</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87761</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Based on the reactions I’ve seen from the CN crew, they’re taking feedback to heart and reacting well by making the changes that make sense to them. &quot;

Based on the comment above and even more so the &lt;a href=&quot;http://comicfoundry.com/?p=1351#comments&quot;&gt;other comment Peter left on the CF blog&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;m gonna go with not so much.

Playing gotcha games with Tim over that fact that he isn&#039;t up to date on a marginal Marvel character is apparently more important than listening to valid criticisms from a professional about the design flaws in your mag.   Geez, at least pretend to accept criticism gracefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Based on the reactions I’ve seen from the CN crew, they’re taking feedback to heart and reacting well by making the changes that make sense to them. &#8221;</p>
<p>Based on the comment above and even more so the <a href="http://comicfoundry.com/?p=1351#comments">other comment Peter left on the CF blog</a>, I&#8217;m gonna go with not so much.</p>
<p>Playing gotcha games with Tim over that fact that he isn&#8217;t up to date on a marginal Marvel character is apparently more important than listening to valid criticisms from a professional about the design flaws in your mag.   Geez, at least pretend to accept criticism gracefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/02/29/thought-provoking-linkblogging-2/comment-page-1/#comment-87754</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I appreciate reading articles like Tim’s because he clearly knows his stuff, and it’s an education.&quot;

Except he doesn&#039;t know that Nova is being published by Marvel right now and is one of their critical darlings. Makes you go hmmmm... no?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I appreciate reading articles like Tim’s because he clearly knows his stuff, and it’s an education.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except he doesn&#8217;t know that Nova is being published by Marvel right now and is one of their critical darlings. Makes you go hmmmm&#8230; no?  :)</p>
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