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	<title>Comments on: More on ADV&#8217;s Existence, Tokyopop OEL</title>
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		<title>By: Jen Lee Quick Still Plans to Continue Off*Beat &#187; Manga Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-123299</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Lee Quick Still Plans to Continue Off*Beat &#187; Manga Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 22:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Book 2 out late 2006. In 2008 came news that the series was on indefinite hiatus. That was after Tokyopop ended a lot of those original graphic novel series, or their creators were told they wouldn&#8217;t have [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Book 2 out late 2006. In 2008 came news that the series was on indefinite hiatus. That was after Tokyopop ended a lot of those original graphic novel series, or their creators were told they wouldn&#8217;t have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyopop Stops Publishing: And Then There Were &#8230;? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-119098</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokyopop Stops Publishing: And Then There Were &#8230;? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their work and began to regret the deals and control Tokyopop exercised. Several promising titles ended early, or not at [...]</description>
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<p>[...] their work and began to regret the deals and control Tokyopop exercised. Several promising titles ended early, or not at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyopop Brings Back Some OEL Manga Online; Kat &#38; Mouse Publish Date &#187; Manga Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-105715</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokyopop Brings Back Some OEL Manga Online; Kat &#38; Mouse Publish Date &#187; Manga Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 01:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] decision to cancel publication but not negotiate for return of their rights. Based on lists going around at the time, the properties listed were those where the work was completed, so there are no [...]</description>
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<p>[...] decision to cancel publication but not negotiate for return of their rights. Based on lists going around at the time, the properties listed were those where the work was completed, so there are no [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yotsuba&#38;! to Return From Yen &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-101774</link>
		<dc:creator>Yotsuba&#38;! to Return From Yen &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 23:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] released through ADV Manga, whose continued existence has been speculated on for at least the last eight months. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] released through ADV Manga, whose continued existence has been speculated on for at least the last eight months. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PiQ Subscribers Out of Luck on Refunds? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-98972</link>
		<dc:creator>PiQ Subscribers Out of Luck on Refunds? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] afraid the news isn&#8217;t good. The parent company, ADV, isn&#8217;t responding to emails on the subject. If you paid by credit card, you might be able to [...]</description>
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<p>[...] afraid the news isn&#8217;t good. The parent company, ADV, isn&#8217;t responding to emails on the subject. If you paid by credit card, you might be able to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wide-Ranging LinkBlogging &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-97380</link>
		<dc:creator>Wide-Ranging LinkBlogging &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people about Tokyopop&#8217;s status &#8212; just like the PWCW article that tried to quell ADV speculation. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s working. Nice of PWCW to give the publishers space to speak, [...]</description>
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<p>[...] people about Tokyopop&#8217;s status &#8212; just like the PWCW article that tried to quell ADV speculation. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s working. Nice of PWCW to give the publishers space to speak, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Interview With Tania del Rio on Sabrina Plans, OEL Manga &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-97226</link>
		<dc:creator>Interview With Tania del Rio on Sabrina Plans, OEL Manga &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In some of the coverage of the Tokyopop OEL situation, Lindsay Cibos said that she was the new artist on Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Is that the [...]</description>
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<p>[...] In some of the coverage of the Tokyopop OEL situation, Lindsay Cibos said that she was the new artist on Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Is that the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Off*Beat on Indefinite Hiatus &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-97157</link>
		<dc:creator>Off*Beat on Indefinite Hiatus &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] but I thought it had promise, and I really liked the characters. When I looked at what was going on with Tokyopop&#8217;s OEL manga titles at the end of June, no one knew what its future was. Now, the author has spoken:  all i can [...]</description>
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<p>[...] but I thought it had promise, and I really liked the characters. When I looked at what was going on with Tokyopop&#8217;s OEL manga titles at the end of June, no one knew what its future was. Now, the author has spoken:  all i can [...]</p>
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		<title>By: *Yotsuba&#38;! &#8212; Recommended Series &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-97018</link>
		<dc:creator>*Yotsuba&#38;! &#8212; Recommended Series &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] although more than five books have been released in Japan, there are serious questions about the future of the publisher, ADV Manga, so it&#8217;s very uncertain when we might see more volumes translated. [...]</description>
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<p>[...] although more than five books have been released in Japan, there are serious questions about the future of the publisher, ADV Manga, so it&#8217;s very uncertain when we might see more volumes translated. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Xenos</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96592</link>
		<dc:creator>Xenos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>velma said: &quot;It&#039;s really unfortunate that Americans basically only have Tokyopop when it comes to making manga in English. If there are other publishers out there, they feel hidden.&quot;

Dark Horse Comics. Oni Press. DC / Vertigo. Image Comics. AiT/Planet Lar. Viper Comics. SLG. Antarctic. Avatar. Boom Studios. A a ton of others. Not to mention self publishing and web comics.

Just because they call them comics, that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s not the same damn thing. Quit closing yourself into TokyoPop&#039;s trap. 

Go to a comic shop and flip through their Diamond order catalog to see the ton of comic publishers shipping to the direct market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>velma said: &#8220;It&#8217;s really unfortunate that Americans basically only have Tokyopop when it comes to making manga in English. If there are other publishers out there, they feel hidden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dark Horse Comics. Oni Press. DC / Vertigo. Image Comics. AiT/Planet Lar. Viper Comics. SLG. Antarctic. Avatar. Boom Studios. A a ton of others. Not to mention self publishing and web comics.</p>
<p>Just because they call them comics, that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s not the same damn thing. Quit closing yourself into TokyoPop&#8217;s trap. </p>
<p>Go to a comic shop and flip through their Diamond order catalog to see the ton of comic publishers shipping to the direct market.</p>
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		<title>By: Recent Story Followup &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96399</link>
		<dc:creator>Recent Story Followup &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blames &#8220;the death of ADV&#8221; for the magazine&#8217;s demise, which should fuel more of those rumors for a while. Yet more commenters use the excuse to once again gripe about the death of Newtype USA, [...]</description>
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<p>[...] blames &#8220;the death of ADV&#8221; for the magazine&#8217;s demise, which should fuel more of those rumors for a while. Yet more commenters use the excuse to once again gripe about the death of Newtype USA, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; June 27, 2008: Impolite, intrusive and invasive</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96391</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; June 27, 2008: Impolite, intrusive and invasive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [Publishing] Gia Manry reports on the latest thing to trigger speculation over anime/manga publisher ADV&#8217;s difficulties: The sale of office furniture and supplies. ADV disaster-management officer sales/marketing manager Chris Oarr noted that the simply had extra stuff after having cut back on staff. (Hat tip: Johanna Draper Carlson.) [...]</description>
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<p>[...] [Publishing] Gia Manry reports on the latest thing to trigger speculation over anime/manga publisher ADV&#8217;s difficulties: The sale of office furniture and supplies. ADV disaster-management officer sales/marketing manager Chris Oarr noted that the simply had extra stuff after having cut back on staff. (Hat tip: Johanna Draper Carlson.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: velma</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96384</link>
		<dc:creator>velma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope so, too. D: 

It would be interesting to know if manga in Japan goes through similar obstacles. Though probably not, since major publishers know what they&#039;re looking for and what they&#039;re not. Tokyopop just seemed to mash everything together, all without a real target audience. It&#039;s really unfortunate that Americans basically only have Tokyopop when it comes to making manga in English. If there are other publishers out there, they feel hidden.

Hopefully someone can put together some sort of resource list for creators trying to pursue a career in OEL manga, so that aspiring authors don&#039;t have to succumb to the same fate... or is such the way with all publishers? I really feel outta the loop, like every time I learn something about the comic industry, it changes. D:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so, too. D: </p>
<p>It would be interesting to know if manga in Japan goes through similar obstacles. Though probably not, since major publishers know what they&#8217;re looking for and what they&#8217;re not. Tokyopop just seemed to mash everything together, all without a real target audience. It&#8217;s really unfortunate that Americans basically only have Tokyopop when it comes to making manga in English. If there are other publishers out there, they feel hidden.</p>
<p>Hopefully someone can put together some sort of resource list for creators trying to pursue a career in OEL manga, so that aspiring authors don&#8217;t have to succumb to the same fate&#8230; or is such the way with all publishers? I really feel outta the loop, like every time I learn something about the comic industry, it changes. D:</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96381</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brigid: Oh. Well, they plan to do a lot of things, but they&#039;re now on my &quot;believe it when you see it&quot; list. 

Velma: I&#039;m afraid things don&#039;t look good, but I hope it does come out later this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brigid: Oh. Well, they plan to do a lot of things, but they&#8217;re now on my &#8220;believe it when you see it&#8221; list. </p>
<p>Velma: I&#8217;m afraid things don&#8217;t look good, but I hope it does come out later this year.</p>
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		<title>By: velma</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96377</link>
		<dc:creator>velma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I wish I knew about Off*Beat! That&#039;s the only OEL title I purchase! I&#039;ve been waiting for it for so long! The author herself said that she believed the book to be released in August 2008, but an editor at Tokyopop said it would be December 2008. So who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I wish I knew about Off*Beat! That&#8217;s the only OEL title I purchase! I&#8217;ve been waiting for it for so long! The author herself said that she believed the book to be released in August 2008, but an editor at Tokyopop said it would be December 2008. So who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: Brigid</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96372</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oarr confirmed that ADV does plan to reprint some titles in the near future.&quot; I asked specifically because of that &quot;not aggressive&quot; quote. I don&#039;t know where the line is, because I didn&#039;t ask; if it wasn&#039;t happening at all, though, that would be pretty significant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oarr confirmed that ADV does plan to reprint some titles in the near future.&#8221; I asked specifically because of that &#8220;not aggressive&#8221; quote. I don&#8217;t know where the line is, because I didn&#8217;t ask; if it wasn&#8217;t happening at all, though, that would be pretty significant.</p>
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		<title>By: gia</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96371</link>
		<dc:creator>gia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johanna I think I misread the quote too, it was a bit confusing.

Also, ADV just sent a letter in to Anime on DVD saying that they&#039;re just selling off surplus stuff:

http://www.animeondvd.com/news/news.php?news_view=14320

(My article is here: http://giapet.net/2008/06/26/followup-on-adv-auction/)

Honestly though, this doesn&#039;t change my speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johanna I think I misread the quote too, it was a bit confusing.</p>
<p>Also, ADV just sent a letter in to Anime on DVD saying that they&#8217;re just selling off surplus stuff:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.animeondvd.com/news/news.php?news_view=14320" rel="nofollow">http://www.animeondvd.com/news/news.php?news_view=14320</a></p>
<p>(My article is here: <a href="http://giapet.net/2008/06/26/followup-on-adv-auction/" rel="nofollow">http://giapet.net/2008/06/26/followup-on-adv-auction/</a>)</p>
<p>Honestly though, this doesn&#8217;t change my speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiki</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96367</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am wondering what&#039;s going on with Lindsay Cibos taking over art on Sabrina.  I&#039;d heard a rumor but Archie Comics hadn&#039;t released anything about it, so I was wondering if I misunderstood. I have no problem with Cibos taking over - she did a very nice job on the fill-in issues a few months ago.  Her style is slightly rounder than Del Rio&#039;s, but it&#039;s not a jarring difference.  I don&#039;t think most readers will be unhappy.

Is Del Rio working on something new, that she has to cut back at Archie?  I hope they don&#039;t lose her entirely.  She&#039;s done wonderful things with Sabrina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am wondering what&#8217;s going on with Lindsay Cibos taking over art on Sabrina.  I&#8217;d heard a rumor but Archie Comics hadn&#8217;t released anything about it, so I was wondering if I misunderstood. I have no problem with Cibos taking over &#8211; she did a very nice job on the fill-in issues a few months ago.  Her style is slightly rounder than Del Rio&#8217;s, but it&#8217;s not a jarring difference.  I don&#8217;t think most readers will be unhappy.</p>
<p>Is Del Rio working on something new, that she has to cut back at Archie?  I hope they don&#8217;t lose her entirely.  She&#8217;s done wonderful things with Sabrina.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/06/25/more-on-advs-existence-tokyopop-oel/comment-page-1/#comment-96360</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I must have misunderstood his quote, &quot;We haven&#039;t been aggressively reprinting, and so some titles have gone out of stock&quot;. Where&#039;s the line between reprinting but not aggressively so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I must have misunderstood his quote, &#8220;We haven&#8217;t been aggressively reprinting, and so some titles have gone out of stock&#8221;. Where&#8217;s the line between reprinting but not aggressively so?</p>
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		<title>By: Brigid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brigid</dc:creator>
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		<description>Actually, Johanna, he said they *are* reprinting. That&#039;s an important point. If ADV were actually dead, they let their books go out of print and dump them at wholesale for 50 cents a copy.

Also, this is not based on any special knowledge, but I doubt Chris would go out there and risk this kind of reaction if there was nothing left to defend. He didn&#039;t have to take my call at all, especially since I have been a bit unkind about him in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Johanna, he said they *are* reprinting. That&#8217;s an important point. If ADV were actually dead, they let their books go out of print and dump them at wholesale for 50 cents a copy.</p>
<p>Also, this is not based on any special knowledge, but I doubt Chris would go out there and risk this kind of reaction if there was nothing left to defend. He didn&#8217;t have to take my call at all, especially since I have been a bit unkind about him in the past.</p>
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