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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/07/31/garfield-minus-garfield-book/comment-page-1/#comment-97118</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for coming by and being so open about answering my questions! (Apologies if the phrasing sounded somewhat brusque.) I really admire your good attitude about all this. Glad to know everyone&#039;s happy about how it&#039;s working out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for coming by and being so open about answering my questions! (Apologies if the phrasing sounded somewhat brusque.) I really admire your good attitude about all this. Glad to know everyone&#8217;s happy about how it&#8217;s working out.</p>
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		<title>By: travors</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/07/31/garfield-minus-garfield-book/comment-page-1/#comment-97114</link>
		<dc:creator>travors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Johanna,

Fantastic site, I&#039;m now subscribed!

Travors here, aka Dan Walsh, the guy responsible for garfieldminusgarfield.net
Here to answer some of your questions!

I&#039;ll be receiving a small fee for writing the foreword. When it&#039;s translated to euro I think it comes out at about Ã¢â€šÂ¬12.34 (ok that bit&#039;s a joke) 
But that&#039;s it. Nothing more. Frankly, it&#039;s a miracle they&#039;re even involving me. The could have shut my whole site down in the blink of a lawyers eye. But Jim Davis is a guy with a great sense of humour and a gifted business mind.

***they&#039;re taking the original strips that they already have and doing the same thing that Walsh did*** 

That&#039;s correct. They&#039;ll be copying some that I made on the site and altering their original print quality versions.

There&#039;s also more but I&#039;m not sure if I can&#039;t talk about it yet ;-)

Having said that, I don&#039;t think getting paid for &quot;altering someone else&#039;s work&quot; would be such an unusual (or even wrong) thing. Plenty of musicians are paid for sampling other peoples music. And doesn&#039;t nearly every movie of a Shakespeare play alter the original manuscript? Albeit probably with permission first!

If you&#039;d like to ask me any questions about the book or G-G feel free to get in touch.

Regards,
Dan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Johanna,</p>
<p>Fantastic site, I&#8217;m now subscribed!</p>
<p>Travors here, aka Dan Walsh, the guy responsible for garfieldminusgarfield.net<br />
Here to answer some of your questions!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be receiving a small fee for writing the foreword. When it&#8217;s translated to euro I think it comes out at about Ã¢â€šÂ¬12.34 (ok that bit&#8217;s a joke)<br />
But that&#8217;s it. Nothing more. Frankly, it&#8217;s a miracle they&#8217;re even involving me. The could have shut my whole site down in the blink of a lawyers eye. But Jim Davis is a guy with a great sense of humour and a gifted business mind.</p>
<p>***they&#8217;re taking the original strips that they already have and doing the same thing that Walsh did*** </p>
<p>That&#8217;s correct. They&#8217;ll be copying some that I made on the site and altering their original print quality versions.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also more but I&#8217;m not sure if I can&#8217;t talk about it yet ;-)</p>
<p>Having said that, I don&#8217;t think getting paid for &#8220;altering someone else&#8217;s work&#8221; would be such an unusual (or even wrong) thing. Plenty of musicians are paid for sampling other peoples music. And doesn&#8217;t nearly every movie of a Shakespeare play alter the original manuscript? Albeit probably with permission first!</p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like to ask me any questions about the book or G-G feel free to get in touch.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;2) How much, if anything, is Walsh getting paid for altering someone else&#039;s work?&quot;

Probably not as much as Dan Didio.

ba-dum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2) How much, if anything, is Walsh getting paid for altering someone else&#8217;s work?&#8221;</p>
<p>Probably not as much as Dan Didio.</p>
<p>ba-dum.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Let&#039;s say a DJ comes up with a radically re-mixed version of a song that was a hit 20 years ago. He puts it up on the web and anyone can listen to it streamed from that site. The songwriter and/or original artist and/or copyright holder comes along and markets it through itunes and makes a fortune... Shouldn&#039;t the DJ get even a small piece?&lt;/i&gt;

That reminds me of &quot;Rapture Riders&quot; a mash-up that mixed The Doors with Blondie... and became the &quot;new&quot; single used to promote a new greatest hits collection for Blondie?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Let&#8217;s say a DJ comes up with a radically re-mixed version of a song that was a hit 20 years ago. He puts it up on the web and anyone can listen to it streamed from that site. The songwriter and/or original artist and/or copyright holder comes along and markets it through itunes and makes a fortune&#8230; Shouldn&#8217;t the DJ get even a small piece?</i></p>
<p>That reminds me of &#8220;Rapture Riders&#8221; a mash-up that mixed The Doors with Blondie&#8230; and became the &#8220;new&#8221; single used to promote a new greatest hits collection for Blondie?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus, it&#039;s really a contemporary art sort of thing . . . recontextualization and all the other made-up words we use when talking about it. I&#039;ve covered tons of stuff from that world and what Walsh does would not be out of place in some of the better contemporary art museums around -- and, actually, what he does is a lot more successful than some of the things I see.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus, it&#8217;s really a contemporary art sort of thing . . . recontextualization and all the other made-up words we use when talking about it. I&#8217;ve covered tons of stuff from that world and what Walsh does would not be out of place in some of the better contemporary art museums around &#8212; and, actually, what he does is a lot more successful than some of the things I see.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Why does the press release say that the book is &quot;inspired by the popular webcomic&quot; instead of &quot;collecting&quot;? Is there some kind of legal loophole requiring the one-step-removed language?&quot;

IANAL, so take this with a pinch of salt: I imagine they can&#039;t say &quot;collecting&quot; because the webcomic wasn&#039;t officially authorised. Following on from that, I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the book is all-new with strips that haven&#039;t appeared on the website, so that there&#039;s a clear distinction between the authorised and unauthorised strips. Time will tell]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why does the press release say that the book is &#8220;inspired by the popular webcomic&#8221; instead of &#8220;collecting&#8221;? Is there some kind of legal loophole requiring the one-step-removed language?&#8221;</p>
<p>IANAL, so take this with a pinch of salt: I imagine they can&#8217;t say &#8220;collecting&#8221; because the webcomic wasn&#8217;t officially authorised. Following on from that, I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the book is all-new with strips that haven&#8217;t appeared on the website, so that there&#8217;s a clear distinction between the authorised and unauthorised strips. Time will tell</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s, what, about 30 years worth of Garfield material in the can, right? And Walsh came up with a concept that allows for the re-release and re-packaging of said material marketed to a completely different audience - an audience that, for the most part, probably doesn&#039;t even LIKE Garfield!  I&#039;d say he&#039;s entitled (at least in a moral sense) to at least a small cut.  

Let&#039;s say a DJ comes up with a radically re-mixed version of a song that was a hit 20 years ago.  He puts it up on the web and anyone can listen to it streamed from that site.  The songwriter and/or original artist and/or copyright holder comes along and markets it through itunes and makes a fortune...  Shouldn&#039;t the DJ get even a small piece?

For the book format, I think a more effective presentation would be the &quot;minus garfield&quot; version and the original on the next (not facing) page. The lack of context is what makes so many of the GMG versions hilarious, or at least satisfyingly strange. I think the original versions right there where the eye can pick up the context without meaning to before the reader has a chance to enjoy the weirdness of the GMG version will suck a lot of the enjoyment out of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s, what, about 30 years worth of Garfield material in the can, right? And Walsh came up with a concept that allows for the re-release and re-packaging of said material marketed to a completely different audience &#8211; an audience that, for the most part, probably doesn&#8217;t even LIKE Garfield!  I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s entitled (at least in a moral sense) to at least a small cut.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say a DJ comes up with a radically re-mixed version of a song that was a hit 20 years ago.  He puts it up on the web and anyone can listen to it streamed from that site.  The songwriter and/or original artist and/or copyright holder comes along and markets it through itunes and makes a fortune&#8230;  Shouldn&#8217;t the DJ get even a small piece?</p>
<p>For the book format, I think a more effective presentation would be the &#8220;minus garfield&#8221; version and the original on the next (not facing) page. The lack of context is what makes so many of the GMG versions hilarious, or at least satisfyingly strange. I think the original versions right there where the eye can pick up the context without meaning to before the reader has a chance to enjoy the weirdness of the GMG version will suck a lot of the enjoyment out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, good point about neeing to redo print-quality art. I hadn&#039;t thought of that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, good point about neeing to redo print-quality art. I hadn&#8217;t thought of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) It&#039;s possible that instead of using the artwork on Walsh&#039;s site, they&#039;re taking the original strips that they already have and doing the same thing that Walsh did.  In other words, it may be that this won&#039;t be a collection of strips that we&#039;ve already seen at the site at all.  We&#039;ll see I guess.

2) I&#039;ll bet he&#039;s getting paid for writing the introduction.  Beyond that I&#039;ll bet he&#039;s getting paid what Jim Davis feels is appropriate for coming up with the idea.  None of this would happen without Davis&#039;s blessing after all.

With this announcement I finally understand why the website has been allowed to exist for as long as it has - Davis likes it.  I wondered why no one had shut it down yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) It&#8217;s possible that instead of using the artwork on Walsh&#8217;s site, they&#8217;re taking the original strips that they already have and doing the same thing that Walsh did.  In other words, it may be that this won&#8217;t be a collection of strips that we&#8217;ve already seen at the site at all.  We&#8217;ll see I guess.</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;ll bet he&#8217;s getting paid for writing the introduction.  Beyond that I&#8217;ll bet he&#8217;s getting paid what Jim Davis feels is appropriate for coming up with the idea.  None of this would happen without Davis&#8217;s blessing after all.</p>
<p>With this announcement I finally understand why the website has been allowed to exist for as long as it has &#8211; Davis likes it.  I wondered why no one had shut it down yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;2) How much, if anything, is Walsh getting paid for altering someone else&#039;s work?&quot;

Well, Jim Davis hasn&#039;t drawn Garfield in over a decade and he&#039;s getting serious scratch. I think it takes more work to remove Garfield from the panels compared to what Davis does. Therefore, I think the situation results in a substantial payday. For Jim Davis, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;2) How much, if anything, is Walsh getting paid for altering someone else&#8217;s work?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, Jim Davis hasn&#8217;t drawn Garfield in over a decade and he&#8217;s getting serious scratch. I think it takes more work to remove Garfield from the panels compared to what Davis does. Therefore, I think the situation results in a substantial payday. For Jim Davis, of course.</p>
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