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		<title>By: Tom Croom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Croom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our conventions (at Green Mustard Entertainment) keep an Anti-Harassment rule in our publications to make sure it is crystal clear that inappropriate behavior isn&#039;t tolerated.  Check out Rules #3 and #16 http://www.floridaanime.com/about/rules]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our conventions (at Green Mustard Entertainment) keep an Anti-Harassment rule in our publications to make sure it is crystal clear that inappropriate behavior isn&#8217;t tolerated.  Check out Rules #3 and #16 <a href="http://www.floridaanime.com/about/rules" rel="nofollow">http://www.floridaanime.com/about/rules</a></p>
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		<title>By: Con Abuse &#124; Grrl Nerd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Con Abuse &#124; Grrl Nerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] effect of the sexist treatment was that our shocked community began speaking back, having important conversations about safety and responsibility that rippled through the blogs and forums. I can&#8217;t speak on [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] effect of the sexist treatment was that our shocked community began speaking back, having important conversations about safety and responsibility that rippled through the blogs and forums. I can&#8217;t speak on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Harassment - Forgotten Already? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harassment - Forgotten Already? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] been two months since much was made of the San Diego Con&#8217;s lack of a harassment policy. The convention staff didn&#8217;t respond to questions, and no action was known to have been taken [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] been two months since much was made of the San Diego Con&#8217;s lack of a harassment policy. The convention staff didn&#8217;t respond to questions, and no action was known to have been taken [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Where Is the San Diego Con Response? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97792</link>
		<dc:creator>Where Is the San Diego Con Response? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] San Diego Comic Convention folks in response to the recent blog-wide discussion of the need for an anti-harassment policy? I emailed the general address last week asking for their statement but received nothing in [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] San Diego Comic Convention folks in response to the recent blog-wide discussion of the need for an anti-harassment policy? I emailed the general address last week asking for their statement but received nothing in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Sizemore</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97641</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Sizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Otakon had two similar problems and were forced to address them in the convention booklet. One problem was people carrying signs that said, &quot;Hug Me&quot;. The other problem was people seeing someone dressed up as their favorite anime character, running up and hugging and snuggling them (called glomping by anime fans)without any warning. 

The signs carriers were about 60% female and 40% male. The glompers were about 80% female teens. Otakon banned both behaviors outright and said that offenders would be evicted from the con.

Mind you, this didn&#039;t stop con goers this year from setting up an inproptu hug line for people to come by and get a little human comfort. But at least both the givers and receivers were willing participants. 

SDCC needs to put a statement in the convention booklet that bans any form of harrasement and says that such cases will be turned over to the police. Let a couple fanboys get haul off in handcuffs for having roving fingers and see how quickly people start behaving themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otakon had two similar problems and were forced to address them in the convention booklet. One problem was people carrying signs that said, &#8220;Hug Me&#8221;. The other problem was people seeing someone dressed up as their favorite anime character, running up and hugging and snuggling them (called glomping by anime fans)without any warning. </p>
<p>The signs carriers were about 60% female and 40% male. The glompers were about 80% female teens. Otakon banned both behaviors outright and said that offenders would be evicted from the con.</p>
<p>Mind you, this didn&#8217;t stop con goers this year from setting up an inproptu hug line for people to come by and get a little human comfort. But at least both the givers and receivers were willing participants. </p>
<p>SDCC needs to put a statement in the convention booklet that bans any form of harrasement and says that such cases will be turned over to the police. Let a couple fanboys get haul off in handcuffs for having roving fingers and see how quickly people start behaving themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: buzz</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97637</link>
		<dc:creator>buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My daughter used to be in the parade costume department at Disneyland and she has loads of stories about inappropriate behavior (by children AND adults) at the parks.  People see the costume and think normal rules of behavior need not apply.  I think all conventions would we well advised to adopt some language along the lines of &quot;to ensure safety, please do not touch booth personnel or cosplayers without their permission&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughter used to be in the parade costume department at Disneyland and she has loads of stories about inappropriate behavior (by children AND adults) at the parks.  People see the costume and think normal rules of behavior need not apply.  I think all conventions would we well advised to adopt some language along the lines of &#8220;to ensure safety, please do not touch booth personnel or cosplayers without their permission&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Hsifeng</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97636</link>
		<dc:creator>Hsifeng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;thekamisama&lt;/i&gt; Says: &quot;There seems to be this creepy little subset in some fandoms that accepts and even promotes this behaivor.&quot;

Then there&#039;s the way stereotypes about who likes comics, anime, video games, RPGs, etc. could encourage antisocial people to think these fandoms are where they belong in the first place.

If it wasn&#039;t for those stereotypes, then maybe more antisocial people would give sports, music, romance novels, etc. a chance instead.  Maybe fewer of them would assume people who actually like comics, anime, video games, RPGs, etc. will welcome rudeness, cater to what they think after they declare &quot;I don&#039;t care what anyone else thinks!!!&quot;, and all that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>thekamisama</i> Says: &#8220;There seems to be this creepy little subset in some fandoms that accepts and even promotes this behaivor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the way stereotypes about who likes comics, anime, video games, RPGs, etc. could encourage antisocial people to think these fandoms are where they belong in the first place.</p>
<p>If it wasn&#8217;t for those stereotypes, then maybe more antisocial people would give sports, music, romance novels, etc. a chance instead.  Maybe fewer of them would assume people who actually like comics, anime, video games, RPGs, etc. will welcome rudeness, cater to what they think after they declare &#8220;I don&#8217;t care what anyone else thinks!!!&#8221;, and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles RB</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97631</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles RB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was somewhat surprised to find (via the original link and its links to other articles) that this was so widespread and aggressive. Either DragonCon* is a nicer convention or I&#039;ve been really oblivious to stuff going on around me (probably the latter).

* I&#039;ve not seen anything at Bristol Comic Expo, but it&#039;s a relaxed, smaller-than-US convention and I doubt you could carry out sexual harrassment without everyone finding out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was somewhat surprised to find (via the original link and its links to other articles) that this was so widespread and aggressive. Either DragonCon* is a nicer convention or I&#8217;ve been really oblivious to stuff going on around me (probably the latter).</p>
<p>* I&#8217;ve not seen anything at Bristol Comic Expo, but it&#8217;s a relaxed, smaller-than-US convention and I doubt you could carry out sexual harrassment without everyone finding out.</p>
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		<title>By: thekamisama</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97621</link>
		<dc:creator>thekamisama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There seems to be this creepy little subset in some fandoms that accepts and even promotes this behaivor. I&#039;ve seen it overrun into insane levels of fratboy debauchery (esp. at some relaxicons and regional meetups, those place are awful!) 

The climate seems to get worse and worse at larger cons now as well. Semi-private parties held by consenting adults in hotel rooms is one thing. But with he larger crowds, media exposure, and a push to a more family friendly event at larger conventions, there is no reason why such a policy is not in place.

After all, isn&#039;t SDCC just one big trade show now? Most of these studios and large comic companies have sexual harrassment policies, its time for Comicon to grow up too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be this creepy little subset in some fandoms that accepts and even promotes this behaivor. I&#8217;ve seen it overrun into insane levels of fratboy debauchery (esp. at some relaxicons and regional meetups, those place are awful!) </p>
<p>The climate seems to get worse and worse at larger cons now as well. Semi-private parties held by consenting adults in hotel rooms is one thing. But with he larger crowds, media exposure, and a push to a more family friendly event at larger conventions, there is no reason why such a policy is not in place.</p>
<p>After all, isn&#8217;t SDCC just one big trade show now? Most of these studios and large comic companies have sexual harrassment policies, its time for Comicon to grow up too.</p>
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		<title>By: joecab</title>
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		<dc:creator>joecab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK Johanna that makes sense. BTW what&#039;s the gender proportion of the huggers? Do they try to balance it out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Johanna that makes sense. BTW what&#8217;s the gender proportion of the huggers? Do they try to balance it out?</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97610</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If half the McDonald&#039;s I visited made me feel uncomfortable at some point because their visitors seemed to think that verbal and physical harassment was ok, then yes, I would expect them to address the issue. And the sad fact is that that&#039;s true of half the cons I&#039;ve been to. I&#039;m not assuming that it&#039;s the convention&#039;s fault, but some of their patrons clearly need educating on proper behavior. Since the convention is already setting out rules of what is and isn&#039;t allowed in their venue, addressing this issue seems simple to add.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If half the McDonald&#8217;s I visited made me feel uncomfortable at some point because their visitors seemed to think that verbal and physical harassment was ok, then yes, I would expect them to address the issue. And the sad fact is that that&#8217;s true of half the cons I&#8217;ve been to. I&#8217;m not assuming that it&#8217;s the convention&#8217;s fault, but some of their patrons clearly need educating on proper behavior. Since the convention is already setting out rules of what is and isn&#8217;t allowed in their venue, addressing this issue seems simple to add.</p>
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		<title>By: David Oakes</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97608</link>
		<dc:creator>David Oakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 14:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, my reply at Bully&#039;s never came through.  (As I was afraid it wouldn&#039;t, without an account.)  But the reason that the convention book mentions handcarts and smoking is because there are places where such things are allowed, but not at the convention.  On the other hand, unwanted grabbing and kissing is well, illegal, and not just at the convention.  Telling the convention that it is their responsibility to deal with it not only paints the con unfairly, but also lets everyone off the hook away from the con.

Let&#039;s say you entered a McDonald&#039;s with a sign posted at the door saying &quot;It is corporate policy that our patrons should not grope each other.  If you are asssaulted, please report it immediately to our staff.&quot;  Would you feel safe?  Or if we assume - again, unfairly in my opinion - that it is ComiCon&#039;s fault, that comics are nothing more than an infantile breeding ground for the next generatiuon of harassers, and they must be stopped at any cost, what is the booklet going to do?  I think it is pretty easy to say that Hooters exploits women as sex objects.  If you knew that they had a company policy stating that &quot;Women are people too, treat them with respect&quot;, does it suddenly become all right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my reply at Bully&#8217;s never came through.  (As I was afraid it wouldn&#8217;t, without an account.)  But the reason that the convention book mentions handcarts and smoking is because there are places where such things are allowed, but not at the convention.  On the other hand, unwanted grabbing and kissing is well, illegal, and not just at the convention.  Telling the convention that it is their responsibility to deal with it not only paints the con unfairly, but also lets everyone off the hook away from the con.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say you entered a McDonald&#8217;s with a sign posted at the door saying &#8220;It is corporate policy that our patrons should not grope each other.  If you are asssaulted, please report it immediately to our staff.&#8221;  Would you feel safe?  Or if we assume &#8211; again, unfairly in my opinion &#8211; that it is ComiCon&#8217;s fault, that comics are nothing more than an infantile breeding ground for the next generatiuon of harassers, and they must be stopped at any cost, what is the booklet going to do?  I think it is pretty easy to say that Hooters exploits women as sex objects.  If you knew that they had a company policy stating that &#8220;Women are people too, treat them with respect&#8221;, does it suddenly become all right?</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think of the &quot;free hugs&quot; folks as just young. They&#039;re exploring physicality and haven&#039;t yet had to realize all the creepy parts or understand why some people might not see it as a good thing. It&#039;s playful for them, not so much for the more mature. 

I suspect it happens at anime cons because they have a much more proportional attendance of males and females. Someone who carried a &quot;free hugs&quot; sign at a comic con that was 85% percent male (as they used to be) would have a whole &#039;nother context.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think of the &#8220;free hugs&#8221; folks as just young. They&#8217;re exploring physicality and haven&#8217;t yet had to realize all the creepy parts or understand why some people might not see it as a good thing. It&#8217;s playful for them, not so much for the more mature. </p>
<p>I suspect it happens at anime cons because they have a much more proportional attendance of males and females. Someone who carried a &#8220;free hugs&#8221; sign at a comic con that was 85% percent male (as they used to be) would have a whole &#8216;nother context.</p>
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		<title>By: Faith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was at the convention and while I didn&#039;t experience any harassment, the &quot;free hugs&quot; people were very aggressive, and acted belligerent when rejected ... I gave one guy the frowning of a lifetime when he yelled obnoxiously at a group of women to take part in his free hug giving. Fortunately he was rejected by all. As it should be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the convention and while I didn&#8217;t experience any harassment, the &#8220;free hugs&#8221; people were very aggressive, and acted belligerent when rejected &#8230; I gave one guy the frowning of a lifetime when he yelled obnoxiously at a group of women to take part in his free hug giving. Fortunately he was rejected by all. As it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: joecab</title>
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		<dc:creator>joecab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a sad state of affairs when you have to post a rule like that, but some people just don&#039;t get it.

Can I say how much I hate that whole &quot;free hugs&quot; deal? Call me a prude, but a hug from a complete stranger is beyond creepy. (And why is it always just at anime cons?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a sad state of affairs when you have to post a rule like that, but some people just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Can I say how much I hate that whole &#8220;free hugs&#8221; deal? Call me a prude, but a hug from a complete stranger is beyond creepy. (And why is it always just at anime cons?)</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/16/convention-harassment/comment-page-1/#comment-97602</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 11:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, some commenters in other threads posted sample language as examples.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, some commenters in other threads posted sample language as examples.</p>
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		<title>By: David Oakes</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Oakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Other conventions do so.&quot;

They do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Other conventions do so.&#8221;</p>
<p>They do?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Johanna,

People can be jerks and, when they are, they often give other people a bad name.

I haven&#039;t been to a convention in years and when I did it was a smaller one.  As a result, I didn&#039;t realize the problems you&#039;ve brought up have reached the levels they have.

This behavior is ridiculous and unacceptable.  Rules to correct these problems need to be established and enforced immediately.  If this is not possible, perhaps (for the sake of respect, dignity, and safety) the practice of comic book/science fiction (etc.) conventions should end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna,</p>
<p>People can be jerks and, when they are, they often give other people a bad name.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been to a convention in years and when I did it was a smaller one.  As a result, I didn&#8217;t realize the problems you&#8217;ve brought up have reached the levels they have.</p>
<p>This behavior is ridiculous and unacceptable.  Rules to correct these problems need to be established and enforced immediately.  If this is not possible, perhaps (for the sake of respect, dignity, and safety) the practice of comic book/science fiction (etc.) conventions should end.</p>
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