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		<title>By: Unreal Estate - Superman Beyond, the Book of Sand and the Harlequin &#171; Mindless Ones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unreal Estate - Superman Beyond, the Book of Sand and the Harlequin &#171; Mindless Ones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grown-up and - much as I enjoyed the thoroughly plated serving Scott Kurtz deservedly received from comixxx critix - I am not. I can&#8217;t speak for bobsy Mindless or amy Mindless or any other of my cohorts in [...]</description>
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<p>[...] grown-up and &#8211; much as I enjoyed the thoroughly plated serving Scott Kurtz deservedly received from comixxx critix &#8211; I am not. I can&#8217;t speak for bobsy Mindless or amy Mindless or any other of my cohorts in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: johnny zito</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnny zito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 14:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t really understand the uproar.

But I did find it funny that his point about staying on message and not being dissuaded by mean spirited critics wasn&#039;t derailed by all the mean spirited critics :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t really understand the uproar.</p>
<p>But I did find it funny that his point about staying on message and not being dissuaded by mean spirited critics wasn&#8217;t derailed by all the mean spirited critics :)</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Rowe</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97862</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Rowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to admit that I never heard of these folks prior to this bru-ha-ha, and I have to admit all i know about them is they have thin skin.   eh, that&#039;s their choice in marketing ;-)   all publicity is good publicity some say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to admit that I never heard of these folks prior to this bru-ha-ha, and I have to admit all i know about them is they have thin skin.   eh, that&#8217;s their choice in marketing ;-)   all publicity is good publicity some say.</p>
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		<title>By: Don MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97844</link>
		<dc:creator>Don MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Johanna, I&#039;m not hurt or stressed. I&#039;m just participating in the discussion. I can&#039;t speak for Johanna (though I suspect she&#039;ll agree), but one of the reasons I wrote about comics is to spark discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Johanna, I&#8217;m not hurt or stressed. I&#8217;m just participating in the discussion. I can&#8217;t speak for Johanna (though I suspect she&#8217;ll agree), but one of the reasons I wrote about comics is to spark discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rose</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97840</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johanna,

I&#039;m glad to hear you&#039;re not getting stressed by this - that your actually having fun with it.

Good for you!

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear you&#8217;re not getting stressed by this &#8211; that your actually having fun with it.</p>
<p>Good for you!</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97833</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I write for print too... but they keep going under! (hmmm... death of print or I&#039;m a jinx? but the Comics Journal is still around.) 

And really old-school print folks look down on self-publishing, too, as &quot;vanity press&quot;. 

Dave, he&#039;s not getting to me. I&#039;m just talking about it because That&#039;s What I Do. Whether high prices (ha!) or stupid statements, I comment on things that interest me about comics. 

If he was truly ignoring the critics, then we wouldn&#039;t have so much mill grist to discuss. Another funny Kurtz comment: that I only say &quot;oh, I enjoyed this&quot;... he hasn&#039;t read very many of my reviews, has he? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I write for print too&#8230; but they keep going under! (hmmm&#8230; death of print or I&#8217;m a jinx? but the Comics Journal is still around.) </p>
<p>And really old-school print folks look down on self-publishing, too, as &#8220;vanity press&#8221;. </p>
<p>Dave, he&#8217;s not getting to me. I&#8217;m just talking about it because That&#8217;s What I Do. Whether high prices (ha!) or stupid statements, I comment on things that interest me about comics. </p>
<p>If he was truly ignoring the critics, then we wouldn&#8217;t have so much mill grist to discuss. Another funny Kurtz comment: that I only say &#8220;oh, I enjoyed this&#8221;&#8230; he hasn&#8217;t read very many of my reviews, has he? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johanna, Don,

I&#039;m not sure why you (and other critics) are letting Scott Kurtz get to you.  He&#039;s only one man.

You know you&#039;re qualified for your jobs.  You have many people who read your work.  Why does it matter what Scott thinks?  If he chooses to ignore his critics, fine.  But this shouldn&#039;t matter to anyone but him.

Scott strikes me as someone who likes to throw a statement out to see who bites and, after someone does, he likes to fan the flames.  He gets a kick out of upsetting people.  Don&#039;t give him any satisfaction.

I&#039;ve done several jobs over the years - by choice.  I&#039;ve enjoyed building my skills  through each career I&#039;ve had.  I&#039;ve never been fired - I&#039;ve always  chosen when to move on. I know the skills I have and so do my employers.  So long as they are pleased with my work, I&#039;m comfortable.  I enjoy my work and no one&#039;s opinion will change (or hinder) that fact.

If someone like Scott were to come along, I&#039;d acknowledge his opinion to myself (in  the appropriate file), but not feed his attempts to upset me.

Please don&#039;t let Scott get to you.  He&#039;s just one guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johanna, Don,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why you (and other critics) are letting Scott Kurtz get to you.  He&#8217;s only one man.</p>
<p>You know you&#8217;re qualified for your jobs.  You have many people who read your work.  Why does it matter what Scott thinks?  If he chooses to ignore his critics, fine.  But this shouldn&#8217;t matter to anyone but him.</p>
<p>Scott strikes me as someone who likes to throw a statement out to see who bites and, after someone does, he likes to fan the flames.  He gets a kick out of upsetting people.  Don&#8217;t give him any satisfaction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done several jobs over the years &#8211; by choice.  I&#8217;ve enjoyed building my skills  through each career I&#8217;ve had.  I&#8217;ve never been fired &#8211; I&#8217;ve always  chosen when to move on. I know the skills I have and so do my employers.  So long as they are pleased with my work, I&#8217;m comfortable.  I enjoy my work and no one&#8217;s opinion will change (or hinder) that fact.</p>
<p>If someone like Scott were to come along, I&#8217;d acknowledge his opinion to myself (in  the appropriate file), but not feed his attempts to upset me.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t let Scott get to you.  He&#8217;s just one guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis West</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97828</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to hear Dave Kellett&#039;s opinion about critics that elaborates a little more on what he said in the book, Listen to Webcomics Weekly episode 10 titled &quot;Crossover!&quot; at this link: (itunes) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=22957518&amp;id=263044864

&quot;Cultivate a Cult of Niceness&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to hear Dave Kellett&#8217;s opinion about critics that elaborates a little more on what he said in the book, Listen to Webcomics Weekly episode 10 titled &#8220;Crossover!&#8221; at this link: (itunes) <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=22957518&amp;id=263044864" rel="nofollow">http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?i=22957518&amp;id=263044864</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Cultivate a Cult of Niceness&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Don MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97827</link>
		<dc:creator>Don MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My day job is as a reporter for a daily newspaper, so I take writing for print seriously as well. But I don&#039;t see it as better in any way than online efforts.

Yes, there&#039;s more noise to signal online, but the sites worth reading tend to stand out from the fly-by-night, amateurish sites/blogs.

The problem with print is that there can be so many obstacles impeding efforts to reach an audience. Financial and logistical concerns can get in the way easily, whereas communication is much easier online. That&#039;s both an advantage and a disadvantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My day job is as a reporter for a daily newspaper, so I take writing for print seriously as well. But I don&#8217;t see it as better in any way than online efforts.</p>
<p>Yes, there&#8217;s more noise to signal online, but the sites worth reading tend to stand out from the fly-by-night, amateurish sites/blogs.</p>
<p>The problem with print is that there can be so many obstacles impeding efforts to reach an audience. Financial and logistical concerns can get in the way easily, whereas communication is much easier online. That&#8217;s both an advantage and a disadvantage.</p>
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		<title>By: odessa steps magazine</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97825</link>
		<dc:creator>odessa steps magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The easy dismissal of &quot;blogging&quot; and &quot;easy website publishing&quot; is why I&#039;m always to make sure that stuff I wrote ended up in a print magazine and not just online.

Maybe it&#039;s because I&#039;m old and from the last pre-Internet generation, but I hold print in higher esteem than online writing (since anyone can seemingly do the latter). Print takes a commitment, even if we are only talking about monetarily, and the web always seems so ephemeral (except for archive.org). 

And, if I can pimp while making my point, we&#039;ll have our first issue in a couple years debuting at Baltimore next month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The easy dismissal of &#8220;blogging&#8221; and &#8220;easy website publishing&#8221; is why I&#8217;m always to make sure that stuff I wrote ended up in a print magazine and not just online.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m old and from the last pre-Internet generation, but I hold print in higher esteem than online writing (since anyone can seemingly do the latter). Print takes a commitment, even if we are only talking about monetarily, and the web always seems so ephemeral (except for archive.org). </p>
<p>And, if I can pimp while making my point, we&#8217;ll have our first issue in a couple years debuting at Baltimore next month.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. I tried to point that out, that a blog is just a tool, but I think it was gas on the fire. And yes, you&#039;re right about the original point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. I tried to point that out, that a blog is just a tool, but I think it was gas on the fire. And yes, you&#8217;re right about the original point.</p>
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		<title>By: Don MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2008/08/21/more-on-webcomic-creator-vs-critics/comment-page-1/#comment-97823</link>
		<dc:creator>Don MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always been frustrated with the term &quot;blogger,&quot; especially when used in a dismissive way or in an exalted way.

Blogging is just *software* for building a simple website. Some using blogging templates for their online diaries. Some use them for links alone. Some use them as a means to present criticism. Some use them to create an online portfolio or gallery.

What I do with &lt;I&gt;Eye on Comics&lt;/I&gt; (built with Wordpress software) is no different than what I did on &lt;I&gt;The Fourth Rail&lt;/I&gt; (which was not set up as a blog). Blogging is just a means to present content. It can be more effective than others or less effective, depending on what you&#039;re trying to do or say and how you say or do it.

Bloggers aren&#039;t automatically journalists, but some journalists do present valid articles on blogs.

The reason it&#039;s so easy to dismiss &quot;bloggers&quot; is that the user-friendliness of the software enables ANYONE to set up a blog. Dismissing ALL blogs is foolish. &lt;I&gt;Comics Reporter&lt;/I&gt; is a blog. &lt;I&gt;Newsarama&lt;/I&gt;&#039;s new site design and structure are essentially that of a more elaborate blog.

What&#039;s most puzzling about this whole &quot;controversy&quot; is that your original point, Johanna, as I understand it was about *promotion* of webcomics by bringing them to the attention of reviewers, not about whether or not the comic creator should use reviews as a means to develop his or her art/product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been frustrated with the term &#8220;blogger,&#8221; especially when used in a dismissive way or in an exalted way.</p>
<p>Blogging is just *software* for building a simple website. Some using blogging templates for their online diaries. Some use them for links alone. Some use them as a means to present criticism. Some use them to create an online portfolio or gallery.</p>
<p>What I do with <i>Eye on Comics</i> (built with Wordpress software) is no different than what I did on <i>The Fourth Rail</i> (which was not set up as a blog). Blogging is just a means to present content. It can be more effective than others or less effective, depending on what you&#8217;re trying to do or say and how you say or do it.</p>
<p>Bloggers aren&#8217;t automatically journalists, but some journalists do present valid articles on blogs.</p>
<p>The reason it&#8217;s so easy to dismiss &#8220;bloggers&#8221; is that the user-friendliness of the software enables ANYONE to set up a blog. Dismissing ALL blogs is foolish. <i>Comics Reporter</i> is a blog. <i>Newsarama</i>&#8217;s new site design and structure are essentially that of a more elaborate blog.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s most puzzling about this whole &#8220;controversy&#8221; is that your original point, Johanna, as I understand it was about *promotion* of webcomics by bringing them to the attention of reviewers, not about whether or not the comic creator should use reviews as a means to develop his or her art/product.</p>
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