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		<title>By: *20th Century Boys Book 6 &#8212; Recommended &#187; Manga Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-108428</link>
		<dc:creator>*20th Century Boys Book 6 &#8212; Recommended &#187; Manga Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I mentioned in my review of volume four, Urasawa pulls his cast from the outskirts of society. Our unlikely heroes in this volume are a [...]</description>
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<p>[...] I mentioned in my review of volume four, Urasawa pulls his cast from the outskirts of society. Our unlikely heroes in this volume are a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 20th Century Boys Book 5 &#187; Manga Worth Reading</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-107374</link>
		<dc:creator>20th Century Boys Book 5 &#187; Manga Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the time jump shown in the previous book, I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised with the major twist in this volume, but I was still stunned when [...]</description>
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<p>[...] the time jump shown in the previous book, I shouldn&#8217;t be surprised with the major twist in this volume, but I was still stunned when [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ailuv</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-106155</link>
		<dc:creator>Ailuv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. I checked the text and Kenji does say &quot;ex-wife,&quot; though another character refers to Otcho&#039;s &quot;wife,&quot; present-tense. That&#039;s what got me confused.

I see &quot;20th Century Boys&quot; quite literally as a shonen tale, all grown up. You see characters as boys, fantasizing about giant robots and ray guns, then you see adult characters bringing these ideas terrifiyingly to life.

I agree that Kenji was reshaped by Kanna, and I think that Otcho is an awesome character.

Oh, and there is a girl in their group of friends. We just haven&#039;t seen her in a while. I can&#039;t wait &#039;till she shows up again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. I checked the text and Kenji does say &#8220;ex-wife,&#8221; though another character refers to Otcho&#8217;s &#8220;wife,&#8221; present-tense. That&#8217;s what got me confused.</p>
<p>I see &#8220;20th Century Boys&#8221; quite literally as a shonen tale, all grown up. You see characters as boys, fantasizing about giant robots and ray guns, then you see adult characters bringing these ideas terrifiyingly to life.</p>
<p>I agree that Kenji was reshaped by Kanna, and I think that Otcho is an awesome character.</p>
<p>Oh, and there is a girl in their group of friends. We just haven&#8217;t seen her in a while. I can&#8217;t wait &#8217;till she shows up again!</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-106146</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah, definitely, I wouldn&#039;t expect a bunch of 8-year-old boys in the 1960s to hang around with many girls. It&#039;s just something I find it helpful to remember when reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, definitely, I wouldn&#8217;t expect a bunch of 8-year-old boys in the 1960s to hang around with many girls. It&#8217;s just something I find it helpful to remember when reading.</p>
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		<title>By: James Moar</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-106143</link>
		<dc:creator>James Moar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johanna,

I think the boys&#039; adventure tendencies at this point are kind of deliberate, seeing as a boys&#039; adventure is the source of everything that&#039;s happening.

(I&#039;ve seen the first movie, which covers up to the next volume or two, so there are things I have to hold my tongue on here....)</description>
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<p>I think the boys&#8217; adventure tendencies at this point are kind of deliberate, seeing as a boys&#8217; adventure is the source of everything that&#8217;s happening.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve seen the first movie, which covers up to the next volume or two, so there are things I have to hold my tongue on here&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Sizemore</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-106140</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Sizemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ailuv,

Kenji says &#039;ex-wife&#039; when telling Otcho how he tracked him down, so my impression is that they are divorced. Plus Otcho was just as much an absentee husband as father. He&#039;s atoning for it all.

Urasawa is saying more than the strong protect the weak. It&#039;s not a question of ethics. Urasawa is saying the essence of strength comes from our connection to other people. We have to have someone we care so deeply about that we can&#039;t stand the thought of either losing them or harm coming to them. When our desire to protect them comes from our love for them then we are truly strong. Strength is anchored in love for another. Kenji is only able to become a hero when Kanna comes into his life. It is his love for her that becomes the source of his strength. That is not the clichÃƒÂ© so readily found in shonen manga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ailuv,</p>
<p>Kenji says &#8216;ex-wife&#8217; when telling Otcho how he tracked him down, so my impression is that they are divorced. Plus Otcho was just as much an absentee husband as father. He&#8217;s atoning for it all.</p>
<p>Urasawa is saying more than the strong protect the weak. It&#8217;s not a question of ethics. Urasawa is saying the essence of strength comes from our connection to other people. We have to have someone we care so deeply about that we can&#8217;t stand the thought of either losing them or harm coming to them. When our desire to protect them comes from our love for them then we are truly strong. Strength is anchored in love for another. Kenji is only able to become a hero when Kanna comes into his life. It is his love for her that becomes the source of his strength. That is not the clichÃƒÂ© so readily found in shonen manga.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-106137</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a good point about this being, for the most part, still a &quot;boys&#039; adventure&quot; tale. Women aren&#039;t part of the key group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a good point about this being, for the most part, still a &#8220;boys&#8217; adventure&#8221; tale. Women aren&#8217;t part of the key group.</p>
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		<title>By: Ailuv</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2009/08/26/20th-century-boys-book-4-recommended/comment-page-1/#comment-106131</link>
		<dc:creator>Ailuv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That review didn&#039;t just contain *some* spoilers, it almost gave away the whole book! I&#039;m glad I read the book before the reveiw!

That said, if Otcho&#039;s self-punishment and isolation (physically in a foreign land and mentally, by keeping his distance from others to the point that no one knows his name) is his repentance for his son&#039;s death, why did he have to abandon his wife? She ends up being an unseen victim, losing both her son and husband. I couldn&#039;t help feeling bad for her (and thinking that they should at least divorce).

The book is a fun read so far, but I wouldn&#039;t look for deep moral messages just yet (you&#039;ve never seen the &quot;you must protect others to be truly strong&quot; cliche in shonen manga before?)

The giant robot scene was hysterical, though! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That review didn&#8217;t just contain *some* spoilers, it almost gave away the whole book! I&#8217;m glad I read the book before the reveiw!</p>
<p>That said, if Otcho&#8217;s self-punishment and isolation (physically in a foreign land and mentally, by keeping his distance from others to the point that no one knows his name) is his repentance for his son&#8217;s death, why did he have to abandon his wife? She ends up being an unseen victim, losing both her son and husband. I couldn&#8217;t help feeling bad for her (and thinking that they should at least divorce).</p>
<p>The book is a fun read so far, but I wouldn&#8217;t look for deep moral messages just yet (you&#8217;ve never seen the &#8220;you must protect others to be truly strong&#8221; cliche in shonen manga before?)</p>
<p>The giant robot scene was hysterical, though! ;)</p>
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		<title>By: All Hail King City &#171; MangaBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>All Hail King City &#171; MangaBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sizemore on vol. 4 of 20th Century Boys (Comics Worth Reading) Casey Brienza on vols. 1 and 2 of Canon (Graphic Novel Reporter) Casey [...]</description>
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<p>[...] Sizemore on vol. 4 of 20th Century Boys (Comics Worth Reading) Casey Brienza on vols. 1 and 2 of Canon (Graphic Novel Reporter) Casey [...]</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
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		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love 20th century boys. that is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love 20th century boys. that is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aug. 26, 2009: Somehow not as good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aug. 26, 2009: Somehow not as good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [Review] 20th Century Boys Vol. 4 Link: Ed Sizemore [...]</description>
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<p>[...] [Review] 20th Century Boys Vol. 4 Link: Ed Sizemore [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Danielle Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danielle Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, exactly what Johanna said.  I had difficulty getting into this volume because I wanted to follow Kenji&#039;s story but your analysis of *why* it makes sense to look at Otcho&#039;s life really resonates with me.  Which means, yes, I need to re-read volume 4 (hopefully when I&#039;m less tired).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, exactly what Johanna said.  I had difficulty getting into this volume because I wanted to follow Kenji&#8217;s story but your analysis of *why* it makes sense to look at Otcho&#8217;s life really resonates with me.  Which means, yes, I need to re-read volume 4 (hopefully when I&#8217;m less tired).</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, what a terrific analysis. You found so much in this book that I missed -- I want to reread it now in light of your comments. When I first read this installment, I thought of it as &quot;part 3 of 4&quot; of a superhero miniseries: just getting the pieces in place for an upcoming chapter, and filling the spaces with action just so something happens. But I hadn&#039;t realized how much parallelism there was with Otcho and Kenji. 

Also, I found the satire of giant robot builders funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a terrific analysis. You found so much in this book that I missed &#8212; I want to reread it now in light of your comments. When I first read this installment, I thought of it as &#8220;part 3 of 4&#8243; of a superhero miniseries: just getting the pieces in place for an upcoming chapter, and filling the spaces with action just so something happens. But I hadn&#8217;t realized how much parallelism there was with Otcho and Kenji. </p>
<p>Also, I found the satire of giant robot builders funny.</p>
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