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		<title>By: *Princess Knight Book 1 &#8212; Recommended &#187; Manga Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>*Princess Knight Book 1 &#8212; Recommended &#187; Manga Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Disneyesque. The character designs remind me most of the &#8220;Pastoral Symphony&#8221; section of Fantasia. It’s a cutesy realism. There are some breathtaking panels and splash pages. As with all his [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] Disneyesque. The character designs remind me most of the &#8220;Pastoral Symphony&#8221; section of Fantasia. It’s a cutesy realism. There are some breathtaking panels and splash pages. As with all his [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Incredibles (Blu-ray) &#187; DVDs Worth Watching</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2010/12/09/fantasia-fantasia-2000/comment-page-1/#comment-119027</link>
		<dc:creator>The Incredibles (Blu-ray) &#187; DVDs Worth Watching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] old DVD Special Features onto their new Blu-ray releases (or relegating them to viewing through the Blu-ray internet connection, an unsatisfying situation leading to occasionally lengthy loading delays or being forced to watch [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] old DVD Special Features onto their new Blu-ray releases (or relegating them to viewing through the Blu-ray internet connection, an unsatisfying situation leading to occasionally lengthy loading delays or being forced to watch [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Princess and the Frog &#187; DVDs Worth Watching</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Princess and the Frog &#187; DVDs Worth Watching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of painter Aaron Douglas and supervised by Eric Goldberg, who directed “Rhapsody in Blue” in Fantasia 2000, a similarly wonderful retro [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] of painter Aaron Douglas and supervised by Eric Goldberg, who directed “Rhapsody in Blue” in Fantasia 2000, a similarly wonderful retro [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JRB</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2010/12/09/fantasia-fantasia-2000/comment-page-1/#comment-116598</link>
		<dc:creator>JRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 03:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Disney is putting out work that they want kids to watch&quot;:

I&#039;ve had vanishingly small success getting kids to watch Fantasia. Most of the people I know who like it are adults or teens who are either fans of classical music or interested in animation as an art form (or both). The original Fantasia was not intended specifically as kids&#039; stuff; witness the original plan for more extensive toplessness in the Pastorale (which ran afoul of the Hay&#039;s code: some of the flower bras were added in to get the film passed), and the red and pink nipples on the harpies in Night on Bald Mountain - although I think they have been censored for the modern releases. This package admittedly includes Fantasia 2000, which was designed to be more kid-centric, but since there is no standalone edition of Fantasia available, it irritates me that it is an edited version.]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve had vanishingly small success getting kids to watch Fantasia. Most of the people I know who like it are adults or teens who are either fans of classical music or interested in animation as an art form (or both). The original Fantasia was not intended specifically as kids&#8217; stuff; witness the original plan for more extensive toplessness in the Pastorale (which ran afoul of the Hay&#8217;s code: some of the flower bras were added in to get the film passed), and the red and pink nipples on the harpies in Night on Bald Mountain &#8211; although I think they have been censored for the modern releases. This package admittedly includes Fantasia 2000, which was designed to be more kid-centric, but since there is no standalone edition of Fantasia available, it irritates me that it is an edited version.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If this was a package clearly aimed at older collections (like the Looney Tunes Golden Collections used to be), then I&#039;d be more likely to agree with you. But Disney is putting out work that they want kids to watch, and I would rather remove the racist image than have to contextualize and explain it to kids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this was a package clearly aimed at older collections (like the Looney Tunes Golden Collections used to be), then I&#8217;d be more likely to agree with you. But Disney is putting out work that they want kids to watch, and I would rather remove the racist image than have to contextualize and explain it to kids.</p>
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		<title>By: JRB</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2010/12/09/fantasia-fantasia-2000/comment-page-1/#comment-116585</link>
		<dc:creator>JRB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are three separate segments in the Pastoral that have had &quot;pickaninny centaurettes&quot; removed from them, and it&#039;s not clear that they are all the same character (they have different hairstyles, for one thing); clips can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7o9HOSdnR0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dnS0bgaf-o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFXDZ-gb-9w&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; (I suggest turning your sound off, since the audio is full of bad static). A version I saw from some years back also omits the two lighter-skinned zebra centaurettes that attend Bachus, which really ticked me off, since they were my favorite characters since childhood (I&#039;m of mixed race, and having appealing black characters in my favorite movie made me very happy). I&#039;m glad they&#039;re back for the new releases.

I wasn&#039;t old enough to ever see the uncensored version (up until the invention of YouTube, anyway), but I still don&#039;t like the removal of the &quot;pickaninny centaurettes&quot;; it&#039;s pretending that the errors of the past didn&#039;t happen. That never helps. Denying the existence of racism perpetuates it more than leaving &quot;Sunflower&quot; in the film would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are three separate segments in the Pastoral that have had &#8220;pickaninny centaurettes&#8221; removed from them, and it&#8217;s not clear that they are all the same character (they have different hairstyles, for one thing); clips can be found <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7o9HOSdnR0" rel="nofollow">here</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dnS0bgaf-o" rel="nofollow">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFXDZ-gb-9w" rel="nofollow">here</a> (I suggest turning your sound off, since the audio is full of bad static). A version I saw from some years back also omits the two lighter-skinned zebra centaurettes that attend Bachus, which really ticked me off, since they were my favorite characters since childhood (I&#8217;m of mixed race, and having appealing black characters in my favorite movie made me very happy). I&#8217;m glad they&#8217;re back for the new releases.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t old enough to ever see the uncensored version (up until the invention of YouTube, anyway), but I still don&#8217;t like the removal of the &#8220;pickaninny centaurettes&#8221;; it&#8217;s pretending that the errors of the past didn&#8217;t happen. That never helps. Denying the existence of racism perpetuates it more than leaving &#8220;Sunflower&#8221; in the film would.</p>
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		<title>By: Newest Disney Diamond Edition Is Bambi, Due March 2011 » DVDs Worth Watching</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newest Disney Diamond Edition Is Bambi, Due March 2011 » DVDs Worth Watching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 00:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] provides interactive trivia and art galleries. Given my poor experience with internet connectivity with Fantasia, this doesn’t [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 23:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say, if comparing the two, I would rather watch 2000 for some of the reasons you mention. It speaks more to me, as a modern viewer. At least they chapter&#039;ed the movie appropriately, so it&#039;s easy to skip around. 

I doubt there will be another film like this -- it doesn&#039;t lend itself to merchandising, without major characters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say, if comparing the two, I would rather watch 2000 for some of the reasons you mention. It speaks more to me, as a modern viewer. At least they chapter&#8217;ed the movie appropriately, so it&#8217;s easy to skip around. </p>
<p>I doubt there will be another film like this &#8212; it doesn&#8217;t lend itself to merchandising, without major characters.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your through reportage.  I love both movies, but this collection seems less of a reason to convert to Blu-ray. I will bide my time as I still get lots more milage on my DVDs.  

I&#039;m surprised you had nothing to say about the computer animation compared to the older cel animation.  In some ways the later film surpasses the earlier as far as imagination and invention, and yet there are parts of 2000 that work less for me. As you point out the older film has some &quot;precious&quot; moments and characters that have not aged well either.  When I watch 2000, btw, I have to skip over the various segues as they seem &quot;precious&quot; to me while I much prefer the single narrator of the older film.  Will there ever be another Disney music anthology film?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your through reportage.  I love both movies, but this collection seems less of a reason to convert to Blu-ray. I will bide my time as I still get lots more milage on my DVDs.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised you had nothing to say about the computer animation compared to the older cel animation.  In some ways the later film surpasses the earlier as far as imagination and invention, and yet there are parts of 2000 that work less for me. As you point out the older film has some &#8220;precious&#8221; moments and characters that have not aged well either.  When I watch 2000, btw, I have to skip over the various segues as they seem &#8220;precious&#8221; to me while I much prefer the single narrator of the older film.  Will there ever be another Disney music anthology film?</p>
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