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		<title>By: Diamond Digital Details; Stores Can Sell Online Comics in September &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diamond Digital Details; Stores Can Sell Online Comics in September &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] months after the Diamond Digital program was announced, a plan for physical comic stores to sell online comics, we finally have some [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] months after the Diamond Digital program was announced, a plan for physical comic stores to sell online comics, we finally have some [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wizard World Digital Debuts With Toy Focus » Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wizard World Digital Debuts With Toy Focus » Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 13:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] print magazine at the end of January, Wizard planned to create a digital magazine, an idea I found ludicrous. Now that their first issue is available, let&#8217;s check it [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] print magazine at the end of January, Wizard planned to create a digital magazine, an idea I found ludicrous. Now that their first issue is available, let&#8217;s check it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What a Digital Comic Retailer Should Be &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>What a Digital Comic Retailer Should Be &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] started thinking further about Diamond&#8217;s plans to have comic shops sell digital comics. That doesn&#8217;t make sense to me, but what would? What would be the function of a retailer for [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] started thinking further about Diamond&#8217;s plans to have comic shops sell digital comics. That doesn&#8217;t make sense to me, but what would? What would be the function of a retailer for [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Schee</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Schee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its odd really, this could have been something I&#039;d of found very interesting years back when I went to shops.

It would be neat to get the standard DC/Marvel stuff I was getting at the time that was widely available. Then order a digital of some Indy book I wanted to try, or had ordered but for some reason Diamond didn&#039;t ship. (or my retailer just didn&#039;t order for whatever reason) Though I would hope ordering it from the store, that it would send an automatic order to Diamond to send a paper copy out to me. (which his doesn&#039;t seem to offer)

Little late for that now with my shopping habits, and other options out there now though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its odd really, this could have been something I&#8217;d of found very interesting years back when I went to shops.</p>
<p>It would be neat to get the standard DC/Marvel stuff I was getting at the time that was widely available. Then order a digital of some Indy book I wanted to try, or had ordered but for some reason Diamond didn&#8217;t ship. (or my retailer just didn&#8217;t order for whatever reason) Though I would hope ordering it from the store, that it would send an automatic order to Diamond to send a paper copy out to me. (which his doesn&#8217;t seem to offer)</p>
<p>Little late for that now with my shopping habits, and other options out there now though.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not taking it personally.  I&#039;m simply pointing out that the &quot;hostility&quot; to the idea is just as silly as the idea itself and the angry tone of certain posts on this thread is silly.  It seems those that are enamored of digital are taking things far more personally (why this is I have no clue).  To imply that this isn&#039;t so is, well, silly.

Regarding the cutting out of middlemen or more accurately, businesses that employ people, if diamond chooses to try this in some misguided effort to keep the DM plugging along, then whats wrong with that?  

It seems that the main criticism is the producer having to share more of a cut and the inconvenience of having to go to a comic shop to download a comic.  But it&#039;s pretty clear that this is intended as a stop gap for diamond and the DM.
  
Given the state of the industry, I think both producers and consumers can take away one thing from all this; it&#039;s not always about you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not taking it personally.  I&#8217;m simply pointing out that the &#8220;hostility&#8221; to the idea is just as silly as the idea itself and the angry tone of certain posts on this thread is silly.  It seems those that are enamored of digital are taking things far more personally (why this is I have no clue).  To imply that this isn&#8217;t so is, well, silly.</p>
<p>Regarding the cutting out of middlemen or more accurately, businesses that employ people, if diamond chooses to try this in some misguided effort to keep the DM plugging along, then whats wrong with that?  </p>
<p>It seems that the main criticism is the producer having to share more of a cut and the inconvenience of having to go to a comic shop to download a comic.  But it&#8217;s pretty clear that this is intended as a stop gap for diamond and the DM.</p>
<p>Given the state of the industry, I think both producers and consumers can take away one thing from all this; it&#8217;s not always about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what if it&#039;s a stupid idea? Well, I hate to see people putting resources, time, and energy into something I think is a waste when I&#039;d rather see them doing something with a much better chance of succeeding and helping them continue. You seem to be taking this quite personally, when there&#039;s at least one thing we can agree on: paper is much preferable to on-screen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if it&#8217;s a stupid idea? Well, I hate to see people putting resources, time, and energy into something I think is a waste when I&#8217;d rather see them doing something with a much better chance of succeeding and helping them continue. You seem to be taking this quite personally, when there&#8217;s at least one thing we can agree on: paper is much preferable to on-screen.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  If people (at least based on certain posts here) are this angry with hardly any publishers on board, I can just imagine the outrage if DC, Marvel, Dark Horse signed up.  That would really halt progress wouldn&#039;t it?  

So what if it&#039;s a stupid idea?  If it helps out some comic shops and helps people who would normally never download a comic to get involved with the process then I say go for it.  It seems the only people upset by this are the ones that probably don&#039;t venture into comic shops much any more anyways and have no use for the direct market all together.  Eventually, even those that do sign up on this will eventually bail and move on to better platforms.  Are people really that upset because they have to go to the lcbs to get a digital copy of the latest bluewater or moonstone offering?  

And how this lines up with some strange, deep seated hatred of superhero comics and those that read them, I have no clue.  If digital is all that (which, based on sales isn&#039;t yet and might not be for a long time)and the pro digital crowd is right when they say the DM is doomed and will vanish in a matter of seconds, then what&#039;s the worry?

I personally think the notion of reading a comic on a tiny phone screen is ridiculous and having read a comic on an Ipad, equally so (I like comics, not &quot;digests&quot;).  The laptop isn&#039;t as bad, but equally devoid of magic.  But then I&#039;m a superhero lovin&#039; fanboy dinosaur and clearly part of the problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  If people (at least based on certain posts here) are this angry with hardly any publishers on board, I can just imagine the outrage if DC, Marvel, Dark Horse signed up.  That would really halt progress wouldn&#8217;t it?  </p>
<p>So what if it&#8217;s a stupid idea?  If it helps out some comic shops and helps people who would normally never download a comic to get involved with the process then I say go for it.  It seems the only people upset by this are the ones that probably don&#8217;t venture into comic shops much any more anyways and have no use for the direct market all together.  Eventually, even those that do sign up on this will eventually bail and move on to better platforms.  Are people really that upset because they have to go to the lcbs to get a digital copy of the latest bluewater or moonstone offering?  </p>
<p>And how this lines up with some strange, deep seated hatred of superhero comics and those that read them, I have no clue.  If digital is all that (which, based on sales isn&#8217;t yet and might not be for a long time)and the pro digital crowd is right when they say the DM is doomed and will vanish in a matter of seconds, then what&#8217;s the worry?</p>
<p>I personally think the notion of reading a comic on a tiny phone screen is ridiculous and having read a comic on an Ipad, equally so (I like comics, not &#8220;digests&#8221;).  The laptop isn&#8217;t as bad, but equally devoid of magic.  But then I&#8217;m a superhero lovin&#8217; fanboy dinosaur and clearly part of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Torsten Adair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torsten Adair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why include a middleman?  To make the system easier to use.  Diamond provides the access point, handles the invoicing, and convinces publishers to participate in the program.

ComiXology also has a retailer initiative, and some nice retailer doodads.

My questions: 
Who gets what from each dd sale?

What happens when B&amp;N or Apple want to sell day-and-date?  Both have digital newsstands...

Will I be able to buy a digital comic ONLINE from a comics shop, which would email me the redemption code?  If so, what does that do to the stores which do not have an online store?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why include a middleman?  To make the system easier to use.  Diamond provides the access point, handles the invoicing, and convinces publishers to participate in the program.</p>
<p>ComiXology also has a retailer initiative, and some nice retailer doodads.</p>
<p>My questions:<br />
Who gets what from each dd sale?</p>
<p>What happens when B&amp;N or Apple want to sell day-and-date?  Both have digital newsstands&#8230;</p>
<p>Will I be able to buy a digital comic ONLINE from a comics shop, which would email me the redemption code?  If so, what does that do to the stores which do not have an online store?</p>
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		<title>By: Comics A.M. &#124; Borders files for bankruptcy, plans to close 192 stores &#124; Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources &#8211; Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/02/15/not-getting-digital-weekly-webzine-going-out-to-buy-online/comment-page-1/#comment-118051</link>
		<dc:creator>Comics A.M. &#124; Borders files for bankruptcy, plans to close 192 stores &#124; Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources &#8211; Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Publishing &#124; Johanna Draper Carlson takes a closer look Gareb Shamus&#8217; plan for a weekly digital magazine and Diamond Comic Distributors&#8217; Diamond Digital initiative. [Comics Worth Reading] [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] Publishing | Johanna Draper Carlson takes a closer look Gareb Shamus&#8217; plan for a weekly digital magazine and Diamond Comic Distributors&#8217; Diamond Digital initiative. [Comics Worth Reading] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/02/15/not-getting-digital-weekly-webzine-going-out-to-buy-online/comment-page-1/#comment-118047</link>
		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ray! I didn&#039;t see that until you said, and now I can&#039;t NOT see it! 

And who&#039;s going to work on the Wizard website is a good question, but they&#039;re one of those companies who always seem to have a lot of openings for interns, providing &quot;experience&quot;. 

Joshua, you are completely correct. This is a plan to let some people feel like they&#039;re doing something, even if it seems to be going the wrong way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray! I didn&#8217;t see that until you said, and now I can&#8217;t NOT see it! </p>
<p>And who&#8217;s going to work on the Wizard website is a good question, but they&#8217;re one of those companies who always seem to have a lot of openings for interns, providing &#8220;experience&#8221;. </p>
<p>Joshua, you are completely correct. This is a plan to let some people feel like they&#8217;re doing something, even if it seems to be going the wrong way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Cornwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, note to Diamond- any logo that possibly looks like balls hanging is not a good logo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, note to Diamond- any logo that possibly looks like balls hanging is not a good logo.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Cornwall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Cornwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wizard&#039;s been very good at giving my friend, Glenn Walker, press passes for the Comic Widows website. I&#039;ve attended the Philly show the last few years, and find the comment &quot;we reach the influencers out there&quot; a bit funny after last year, when the dominant booth position was given to Microsoft&#039;s kool new Kin phones. They were cancelled less then a month later. 

Think about that- a &quot;comic con&quot; didn&#039;t have Marvel, DC, Image, or Dark Horse as a guest or vendor, but instead had the worst mobile phone ever. And not just anywhere, but in the up-front, right-as-you-enter position.

As for the digital publication, I&#039;d be happy to read it if I knew who was going to *write* for it. He fired all the writers, didn&#039;t he? His GeekSpamDaily sheet is little more than three press releases reworded with snark. Are we going to get a 32 page PDF of the same? I can&#039;t imagine any writer with even a little bit of self-respect would consider working for the Great Shamus Stock Scam.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wizard&#8217;s been very good at giving my friend, Glenn Walker, press passes for the Comic Widows website. I&#8217;ve attended the Philly show the last few years, and find the comment &#8220;we reach the influencers out there&#8221; a bit funny after last year, when the dominant booth position was given to Microsoft&#8217;s kool new Kin phones. They were cancelled less then a month later. </p>
<p>Think about that- a &#8220;comic con&#8221; didn&#8217;t have Marvel, DC, Image, or Dark Horse as a guest or vendor, but instead had the worst mobile phone ever. And not just anywhere, but in the up-front, right-as-you-enter position.</p>
<p>As for the digital publication, I&#8217;d be happy to read it if I knew who was going to *write* for it. He fired all the writers, didn&#8217;t he? His GeekSpamDaily sheet is little more than three press releases reworded with snark. Are we going to get a 32 page PDF of the same? I can&#8217;t imagine any writer with even a little bit of self-respect would consider working for the Great Shamus Stock Scam.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@William George: Since DC, Marvel Image and even Dark Horse aren&#039;t included in this scheme it&#039;s hard to see this as being driven by a cash grab aimed at superhero fanboys.

@Johanna What this actually is aimed at is comics shop retailers, who correctly see digital distribution as a threat to their livelihoods.  They are Diamond&#039;s customers, not the consumers, which explains every idiotic feature of this scheme.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@William George: Since DC, Marvel Image and even Dark Horse aren&#8217;t included in this scheme it&#8217;s hard to see this as being driven by a cash grab aimed at superhero fanboys.</p>
<p>@Johanna What this actually is aimed at is comics shop retailers, who correctly see digital distribution as a threat to their livelihoods.  They are Diamond&#8217;s customers, not the consumers, which explains every idiotic feature of this scheme.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It rarely is, though, and I find it too much to pay on a continuing basis for 20 pages of a partial story that I don&#039;t own and can&#039;t lend to a friend. Digital sales are minimal right now, it&#039;s true, but I believe that&#039;s because no one is taking it seriously as a market and giving customers what they want. Why should they? The decision-makers have too much invested in the market as it is/was.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It rarely is, though, and I find it too much to pay on a continuing basis for 20 pages of a partial story that I don&#8217;t own and can&#8217;t lend to a friend. Digital sales are minimal right now, it&#8217;s true, but I believe that&#8217;s because no one is taking it seriously as a market and giving customers what they want. Why should they? The decision-makers have too much invested in the market as it is/was.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaylat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaylat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure why you tossed $2 pricing in your list of digital problems? That sounds pretty reasonable to me, as long as it&#039;s an unencumbered pdf.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why you tossed $2 pricing in your list of digital problems? That sounds pretty reasonable to me, as long as it&#8217;s an unencumbered pdf.</p>
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		<title>By: William George</title>
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		<dc:creator>William George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 05:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Diamond plan is another cash grab from the same group of superhero fanboys who have always been falling for their cash grabs since the first comic shop opened. It&#039;s the variant cover for the digital age.

The reason for them dragging their asses on digital, and the reason for all of Jim Lee&#039;s string-waving, is that they know as well as anyone that digital is not a market they can dominate.

People who aren&#039;t superhero fanboys (99% of the population)who may be open to reading comics will demand better formats, different genres, and compelling work. As far as Marvel, DC, Image and the rest of them go, this is something they pull off rarely. 

So while they continue to dominate a shrinking market, they will also have doofuses screaming that piracy is the reason for their failing business and if you&#039;re not going to a comic shop, you&#039;re obviously a pirate as well. 

And Gareb Shamus is a parasite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Diamond plan is another cash grab from the same group of superhero fanboys who have always been falling for their cash grabs since the first comic shop opened. It&#8217;s the variant cover for the digital age.</p>
<p>The reason for them dragging their asses on digital, and the reason for all of Jim Lee&#8217;s string-waving, is that they know as well as anyone that digital is not a market they can dominate.</p>
<p>People who aren&#8217;t superhero fanboys (99% of the population)who may be open to reading comics will demand better formats, different genres, and compelling work. As far as Marvel, DC, Image and the rest of them go, this is something they pull off rarely. </p>
<p>So while they continue to dominate a shrinking market, they will also have doofuses screaming that piracy is the reason for their failing business and if you&#8217;re not going to a comic shop, you&#8217;re obviously a pirate as well. </p>
<p>And Gareb Shamus is a parasite.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/02/15/not-getting-digital-weekly-webzine-going-out-to-buy-online/comment-page-1/#comment-118024</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 04:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The real question is, why buy online at all? You pirate your comics anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question is, why buy online at all? You pirate your comics anyway.</p>
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