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		<title>By: X-Men: First Class on Blu-ray &#187; DVDs Worth Watching</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/06/04/x-men-first-class/comment-page-1/#comment-123093</link>
		<dc:creator>X-Men: First Class on Blu-ray &#187; DVDs Worth Watching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I thought I remembered the movie pretty well, for my first home video viewing of X-Men: First Class, I chose &#8220;X Marks the Spot&#8221; mode, which interrupts the film with interview inserts [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] I thought I remembered the movie pretty well, for my first home video viewing of X-Men: First Class, I chose &#8220;X Marks the Spot&#8221; mode, which interrupts the film with interview inserts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vera in CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vera in CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your comment about women was interesting -- I&#039;m a woman, born in the 60&#039;s, and was not surprised or offended at all.  In fact it kept the film more real for me -- women were pretty much still treated that way in general.  You have to put yourself in that era&#039;s society, not see it through the lens of ours.  This is just before bra-burning, etc., but that&#039;s coming up pretty soon, hopefully in the next film if the natural progression follows...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment about women was interesting &#8212; I&#8217;m a woman, born in the 60&#8242;s, and was not surprised or offended at all.  In fact it kept the film more real for me &#8212; women were pretty much still treated that way in general.  You have to put yourself in that era&#8217;s society, not see it through the lens of ours.  This is just before bra-burning, etc., but that&#8217;s coming up pretty soon, hopefully in the next film if the natural progression follows&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The World Has Already Changed LinkBlogging: Women, Collectibility, Miniseries, and Gary Groth &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>The World Has Already Changed LinkBlogging: Women, Collectibility, Miniseries, and Gary Groth &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] which show that Green Lantern came in #1, but with under $53 million. That&#8217;s less than X-Men: First Class, which cost a heck of a lot less to make! Warner reportedly was expecting $55-65 million, so this [...]]]></description>
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<p>[...] which show that Green Lantern came in #1, but with under $53 million. That&#8217;s less than X-Men: First Class, which cost a heck of a lot less to make! Warner reportedly was expecting $55-65 million, so this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marvel Movie Mags: X-Men First Class and Thor Movie Special &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvel Movie Mags: X-Men First Class and Thor Movie Special &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 12:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] focus here is the comics, not the movie. Reprints are included of X-Men: First Class #1 and #5 (both by Jeff Parker, Roger Cruz, and Victor [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: takingitoutside</title>
		<link>http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/06/04/x-men-first-class/comment-page-1/#comment-119893</link>
		<dc:creator>takingitoutside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 06:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I saw it with a few friends, we all liked it and none of us had heard anything bad beforehand, so I don&#039;t know about bad word of mouth.  I did notice, however, that X-Men is joined in theatres by Thor and Pirates of the Caribbean 4 (which I&#039;m guessing all draw exactly the same audience), as well as Bridesmaids, The Hangover and Fast Five (which I&#039;m guessing draw more or less the same audience).  I know I&#039;ve seen three or four movies in the past two weeks.  Maybe the potential audience is just too split?  At least in America, I imagine a lot of people went to see a movie last weekend because of the Memorial Day holiday, and they might not have wanted to go again so soon, or they might have wanted something different, like a romance or a drama.

I&#039;m kind of conflicted about the female characters.  More could have been done with them, but I liked how, for example, they showed MacTaggert being aggressively good at her job in the beginning of the film, only to be sidelined by sexist superiors at various points in the rest of it.  They could have done nothing at all, or just had some of the CIA guys make an occasional sexist remark, but they proved MacTaggert&#039;s worth to the audience first instead.  I thought that made it harder to dismiss the sexism.

That might just be wishful thinking because I think there might be an ulterior motive behind the change in Moira MacTaggert&#039;s character (maybe).  &lt;i&gt;First Class&lt;/i&gt; seems to be trying to reconcile the worlds of the X-men movies with the comics, to some extent.  That is, they&#039;ve putting all of the movies into one world that is different from the comics, and that backed &lt;i&gt;First Class&lt;/i&gt; into some corners.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moira_MacTaggert&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MacTaggert&lt;/a&gt; is an old character from the comics.  In them, she&#039;s a brilliant geneticist with a complicated romantic history (which includes both Xavier and Banshee) and, eventually, an incredibly powerful mutant son (not Xavier&#039;s).  Now, I don&#039;t know if this is where they&#039;re going, but with MacTaggert situated where she is in &lt;i&gt;First Class&lt;/i&gt; - and given that her son&#039;s powers seem similar to William Stryker&#039;s son Jason&#039;s powers in &lt;i&gt;X2&lt;/i&gt; - it&#039;s possible they intend to use her as a sort of bridge character.  

One of the problems the Spider-man movies ran into was an overflowing cast of characters, and X-men could easily go the same way.  If they can tie characters and movies back together - by saying that Moira was involved with Stryker instead of Joseph MacTaggert and her son &quot;Proteus&quot; or &quot;Mutant X&quot; was Jason (who I think was also referred to as Mutant X in &lt;i&gt;X2&lt;/i&gt;) - they might be able to keep the series from falling apart.  That&#039;s not to say that I like taking a brilliant geneticist and making her into a dazed schoolgirl, but there was a bit more going on there.  If nothing else, they took the time to show her doing things throughout the action scenes, to the point where you can argue that she saved a large group of people in a key battle by fighting someone at an important time, if not beating him herself.  (Sorry for the lame phrasing; I don&#039;t want to spoil anything.)  Overall, I think they might have included MacTaggert as much to set up her character for future films (where, presumably, she would play an even more important role) as anything else, and I&#039;d be happy if they were taking the time for that.


PS: If you didn&#039;t catch it, there were two cameos, not just the obvious one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw it with a few friends, we all liked it and none of us had heard anything bad beforehand, so I don&#8217;t know about bad word of mouth.  I did notice, however, that X-Men is joined in theatres by Thor and Pirates of the Caribbean 4 (which I&#8217;m guessing all draw exactly the same audience), as well as Bridesmaids, The Hangover and Fast Five (which I&#8217;m guessing draw more or less the same audience).  I know I&#8217;ve seen three or four movies in the past two weeks.  Maybe the potential audience is just too split?  At least in America, I imagine a lot of people went to see a movie last weekend because of the Memorial Day holiday, and they might not have wanted to go again so soon, or they might have wanted something different, like a romance or a drama.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m kind of conflicted about the female characters.  More could have been done with them, but I liked how, for example, they showed MacTaggert being aggressively good at her job in the beginning of the film, only to be sidelined by sexist superiors at various points in the rest of it.  They could have done nothing at all, or just had some of the CIA guys make an occasional sexist remark, but they proved MacTaggert&#8217;s worth to the audience first instead.  I thought that made it harder to dismiss the sexism.</p>
<p>That might just be wishful thinking because I think there might be an ulterior motive behind the change in Moira MacTaggert&#8217;s character (maybe).  <i>First Class</i> seems to be trying to reconcile the worlds of the X-men movies with the comics, to some extent.  That is, they&#8217;ve putting all of the movies into one world that is different from the comics, and that backed <i>First Class</i> into some corners.  </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moira_MacTaggert" rel="nofollow">MacTaggert</a> is an old character from the comics.  In them, she&#8217;s a brilliant geneticist with a complicated romantic history (which includes both Xavier and Banshee) and, eventually, an incredibly powerful mutant son (not Xavier&#8217;s).  Now, I don&#8217;t know if this is where they&#8217;re going, but with MacTaggert situated where she is in <i>First Class</i> &#8211; and given that her son&#8217;s powers seem similar to William Stryker&#8217;s son Jason&#8217;s powers in <i>X2</i> &#8211; it&#8217;s possible they intend to use her as a sort of bridge character.  </p>
<p>One of the problems the Spider-man movies ran into was an overflowing cast of characters, and X-men could easily go the same way.  If they can tie characters and movies back together &#8211; by saying that Moira was involved with Stryker instead of Joseph MacTaggert and her son &#8220;Proteus&#8221; or &#8220;Mutant X&#8221; was Jason (who I think was also referred to as Mutant X in <i>X2</i>) &#8211; they might be able to keep the series from falling apart.  That&#8217;s not to say that I like taking a brilliant geneticist and making her into a dazed schoolgirl, but there was a bit more going on there.  If nothing else, they took the time to show her doing things throughout the action scenes, to the point where you can argue that she saved a large group of people in a key battle by fighting someone at an important time, if not beating him herself.  (Sorry for the lame phrasing; I don&#8217;t want to spoil anything.)  Overall, I think they might have included MacTaggert as much to set up her character for future films (where, presumably, she would play an even more important role) as anything else, and I&#8217;d be happy if they were taking the time for that.</p>
<p>PS: If you didn&#8217;t catch it, there were two cameos, not just the obvious one.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 23:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m wondering if we&#039;ll get another superhero movie that breaks records like the first couple Spider-Man movies did.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kung Fu Panda 2 came out last weekend. I just saw the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/20227.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;weekend box office&lt;/a&gt; -- First Class was first with $56 million, followed by The Hangover Part 2, KFP2, Pirates 4, and Bridesmaids. Thor has dropped out of the top five already, but it&#039;s still top ten, and they&#039;re predicting a final gross for it of around $180 million.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kung Fu Panda 2 came out last weekend. I just saw the <a href="http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/20227.html" rel="nofollow">weekend box office</a> &#8212; First Class was first with $56 million, followed by The Hangover Part 2, KFP2, Pirates 4, and Bridesmaids. Thor has dropped out of the top five already, but it&#8217;s still top ten, and they&#8217;re predicting a final gross for it of around $180 million.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great review.

Didn&#039;t that Jack Black &quot;Panda&quot; sequel come out this weekend?  Could that be siphoning off some of the audience?  

And thanks for the clarification on the red teleporter guy.  I&#039;d never heard of him before.  I saw him in the trailers and just assumed it was going to be Nightcrawlers dad or something.

And it use to be you could have super duper mind powers and dress in lingerie and that was enough for most people.  But now shes got diamond skin as well? ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t that Jack Black &#8220;Panda&#8221; sequel come out this weekend?  Could that be siphoning off some of the audience?  </p>
<p>And thanks for the clarification on the red teleporter guy.  I&#8217;d never heard of him before.  I saw him in the trailers and just assumed it was going to be Nightcrawlers dad or something.</p>
<p>And it use to be you could have super duper mind powers and dress in lingerie and that was enough for most people.  But now shes got diamond skin as well? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: The Movie to Comic Problem Again &#8212; What X-Men Do I Read? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Movie to Comic Problem Again &#8212; What X-Men Do I Read? &#187; Comics Worth Reading</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] enjoyed watching X-Men: First Class, so I wanted to read comics that would give me the same feeling. Only&#8230; what are [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: James Schee</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Schee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder.... is it being set in the 60s hurting it? Moviegoers are mostly young people, and they don&#039;t tend to have a great affection for history or the past at times. Also the movie lacks star power, Kevin Bacon is probably the only name person in the film.

Add in that sequels have a tendency to leave a been there, done that type of feeling and that there are so many other superhero movies coming out now as compared to when the first -Men movies came out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder&#8230;. is it being set in the 60s hurting it? Moviegoers are mostly young people, and they don&#8217;t tend to have a great affection for history or the past at times. Also the movie lacks star power, Kevin Bacon is probably the only name person in the film.</p>
<p>Add in that sequels have a tendency to leave a been there, done that type of feeling and that there are so many other superhero movies coming out now as compared to when the first -Men movies came out.</p>
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		<title>By: Johanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 14:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t heard any bad word of mouth, but that kind of thing is so difficult to judge and liable to be affected by personal perception. Having just rewatched both Singer X-Men films, I&#039;d say that I liked this one just as much as 1 and slightly more than 2 (which was pretty grim and lots of fighting). The super-spy/60s setting gave First Class a lot of charm and a built-in excuse when things got silly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard any bad word of mouth, but that kind of thing is so difficult to judge and liable to be affected by personal perception. Having just rewatched both Singer X-Men films, I&#8217;d say that I liked this one just as much as 1 and slightly more than 2 (which was pretty grim and lots of fighting). The super-spy/60s setting gave First Class a lot of charm and a built-in excuse when things got silly.</p>
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		<title>By: James Schee</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Schee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 02:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I honestly forgot it was coming out this week, despite seeing lots of commercials but none seemed to give a release date in memorable fashion. But then given that it hasn&#039;t been under 99 (and has topped out at 105) the last 5 days and my brain is mush right now.

I wonder if not having Wolverine starring hurt it? He was clearly the break through character of the first trilogy, some may just not have an interest without seeing him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly forgot it was coming out this week, despite seeing lots of commercials but none seemed to give a release date in memorable fashion. But then given that it hasn&#8217;t been under 99 (and has topped out at 105) the last 5 days and my brain is mush right now.</p>
<p>I wonder if not having Wolverine starring hurt it? He was clearly the break through character of the first trilogy, some may just not have an interest without seeing him.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 02:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if this explains anything or not, but for based on the reviews I went yesterday expecting something as good as the Singer films and found that it was a kind of uninspired piece on the whole. The character motivations were thin (Magneto: &quot;I hate you, but your whole philosophy is so right I shall adopt it as my own!&quot;) and generally it just felt like it only aspired to be good enough, not great. I was reminded of A.O. Scott&#039;s review of Thor in the NY Times, which wasn&#039;t really about Thor but about the general mediocrity of summer films that aren&#039;t terrible, but just don&#039;t try hard enough to be good. So, maybe bad word of mouth explains the drop from the preview night sales (strong) to Friday sales (weak)? (Or maybe I just assume the whole world secretly agrees with me, but I&#039;m actually totally off the mark!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if this explains anything or not, but for based on the reviews I went yesterday expecting something as good as the Singer films and found that it was a kind of uninspired piece on the whole. The character motivations were thin (Magneto: &#8220;I hate you, but your whole philosophy is so right I shall adopt it as my own!&#8221;) and generally it just felt like it only aspired to be good enough, not great. I was reminded of A.O. Scott&#8217;s review of Thor in the NY Times, which wasn&#8217;t really about Thor but about the general mediocrity of summer films that aren&#8217;t terrible, but just don&#8217;t try hard enough to be good. So, maybe bad word of mouth explains the drop from the preview night sales (strong) to Friday sales (weak)? (Or maybe I just assume the whole world secretly agrees with me, but I&#8217;m actually totally off the mark!)</p>
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