DC Relaunch Titles I’m Looking Forward To (And Why I Don’t Care for the Others)

Now that I’m caught up on writing about the DC relaunch news itself, let’s take a look at the titles announced so far. They’ve been trickling out in themed posts:

  1. The Big Guns:
    Justice League #1 by Geoff Johns and Jim Lee
    I’m not excited by the creators, but I will check it out as the flagship; it should be a good indicator of the tone of the line.

  2. Wonder Woman #1 coverWonder Woman #1 by Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang
    Definitely. Anything Cliff does I read. His work is simply gorgeous. I’m much more ambivalent-trending-to-negative with Azzarello, but I did very much enjoy Doctor 13: Architecture and Morality by the same team, so hopefully, this will reach those heights. (And can I say how exciting it is to be looking forward to a Wonder Woman book again?)

  3. Aquaman #1 by Geoff Johns and Ivan Reis
    Maybe, depends on a flip-through. I’d like to like the character, but no one seems to know what to do with him. Is it embarrassing to say the only stories I’ve liked were those Sub Diego ones?

  4. The Flash #1 by Francis Manapul and Brian Buccellato
    No. I have to draw the line somewhere, and I just don’t care enough about this hero, his powers, or reading an artist’s writing debut.

  5. The Fury of Firestorm #1 by Ethan Van Sciver, Gail Simone, and Yildiray Cinar
    Yes. I trust Gail, and high school heroes have lots of potential, especially when they have multiple personalities.

  6. The Savage Hawkman #1 by Tony Daniel and Philip Tan
    Much as I have appreciated Hawkman and his costume in the past (especially when drawn by someone not afraid to make men attractive), the word “Savage” says this isn’t for me. Especially since there’s no mention of Hawkwoman.

  7. Green Arrow #1 by JT Krul and Dan Jurgens
    No. People seem to want to make GA grim, and Krul’s stories are snoozers.

  8. Justice League International #1 by Dan Jurgens and Aaron Lopresti
    Maybe. Much as I appreciate Dan’s craft, I’m not sure what he’s going to do with this title is what I want to read. On the other hand, I’d like to see more international superheroes.

  9. Mr. Terrific #1 coverMister Terrific #1 by Eric Wallace and Roger Robinson
    Yes. Don’t know the creators, but a smart “eligible bachelor” (as the copy has it) has a lot of potential.

  10. Captain Atom #1 by JT Krul and Freddie Williams II
    No. Aside from the Krul curse, they’re emphasizing his power levels and god-like status, and I’m not interested.

  11. DC Universe Presents #1 by various
    Great idea, a continuing series of rotating spotlights, that plays into DC’s history, but I won’t be reading Deadman by Paul Jenkins and Bernard Chang. Just not interesting-sounding. I’m curious to see how long the story runs and who’s up next, though, so count this a maybe.

  12. Green Lanterns:
    Green Lantern #1 by Geoff Johns (him again?), Doug Mahnke, and Christian Alamy
    No. Don’t care about the character or Johns’ work with him.

  13. Green Lantern Corps #1 by Peter J. Tomasi , Fernando Pasarin, and Scott Hanna
    No on the second string.

  14. Green Lantern: The New Guardians #1 by Tony Bedard, Tyler Kirkham, and Batt
    No on the rainbow lanterns.

  15. Red Lanterns #1 by Peter Milligan, Ed Benes, and Rob Hunter
    And hell no on the bloody lanterns.

  16. The Batman books:
    Batman #1 by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
    No. I liked Batman, Inc. and I don’t have a need for Bruce Wayne to be the only one bearing the name. Plus, I don’t want to read art by someone known for Spawn.

  17. Detective Comics #1 by Tony Daniel
    Ick. No.

  18. More Batman:
    Batman and Robin #1 by Peter Tomasi and Pat Gleason
    A family book, as Robin will be Damian, Bruce Wayne’s son. If I felt better about some of the other Batman books, I might try this, but as is, I’m saying no, because I don’t believe it will stand alone.

  19. Batman: The Dark Knight #1 by David Finch and Jay Fabok
    Whoa, deja vu. I’m not reading it now, and I won’t read it then. (My track record in being excited about trying new things took a dive at this point in the post, but better days are coming.)

  20. Batgirl #1 coverThe Bat-Women:
    Batwoman #1 by J.H. Williams III, Haden Blackman, and Amy Reeder
    We’ve been waiting on this for a while, so I’m worried about it building up too much pressure of anticipation, but I’m still buying it.

  21. Batgirl #1 by Gail Simone, Ardian Syaf, and Vicente Cifuentes
    I want to like this, but a) I really liked the existing Batgirl book with Stephanie, and I resent losing her in the rush to bring back the retro (aka publicly known) character versions; b) I really liked Oracle, and I think turning her back into Batgirl is a horrible step back that sends a terrible message about diversity; and c) I have no idea who those artists are, and the look of the book is very important when discussing books about women. You might get a wonderful female hero, or you might get exploitation. Call it a maybe.

  22. Catwoman #1 by Judd Winick and Guillem March
    Ick. No. I don’t want to quote the blurb, but it’s all about “look, boys, a bad girl for you to ogle”.

  23. Birds of Prey #1 by Duane Swierczynski and Jesus Saiz
    A very qualified maybe. It will be very difficult to meet or surpass Gail Simone’s run on this title, and I’m leery of the lack of female creators listed so far, especially when it comes to handling female characters.

  24. Nightwing #1 by Kyle Higgins and Eddy Barrows
    I’d read a comic about happy-go-lucky acrobat-trained-by-Batman Dick Grayson; this is promising “superhuman evil”. Yuck, pass.

  25. Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 by Scott Lobdell and Kenneth Rocafort
    Nah, nothing says “buy me” about “outlaw vigilantes” and “antiheroes”.

  26. Batwing #1 by Judd Winick and Ben Oliver
    I would like to read this, but I need more reason than “he’s a black Batman”. I’m not a Winick fan, and if I had more idea of the concept, this might be a maybe, but for now, no.

  27. The Dark Side (supernatural titles):
    Swamp Thing #1 by Scott Snyder and Yannick Paquette
    I don’t think so. I don’t have a need to see the character back, and I’m squeamish of anything promoted as horror.

  28. Justice League Dark #1 coverJustice League Dark #1 by Peter Milligan and Mikel Janin
    This, on the other hand, actually sounds fun, a team featuring John Constantine, Madame Xanadu, and others. Yes.

  29. Animal Man #1 by Jeff Lemire, Travel Foreman, and Dan Green
    Maybe. I like the idea of focusing on daughter Maxine coming of age, and her powers arriving, so long as it’s not “only I am strong enough to handle this, I must prevent her from using them”.

  30. Demon Knights #1 by Paul Cornell, Diogenes Neves, and Oclair Albert
    What, are you kidding me? No. Oh, wait, it’s Cornell. Sadly, still no, but good luck, Paul.

  31. Frankenstein, Agent of Shade #1 by Jeff Lemire and Alberto Ponticelli
    If there were any title spinning out of Seven Soldiers, I never would have guessed this one. No.

  32. Resurrection Man #1 by Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning, and Fernando Dagnino
    Wow, that brings back memories. I remember the lenticular cover the first time they tried this series. Maybe.

  33. I, Vampire #1 by Josh Fialkov and Andrea Sorrentino
    No, but nice try. Glad to see it back. (Although what’s with Miss I’m Supernatural, So I’m Naked?)

  34. Voodoo #1 by Ron Marz and Sami Basri
    No thank you.

  35. Young Heroes:
    Legion Lost #1 by Fabian Nicieza and Pete Woods
    Yes. I liked the concept when they did it post-Zero Hour, and I expect to like it now — putting future kids in our time period makes the stories more relatable as well as playing up their different attitudes (if done right).

  36. Static Shock #1 coverLegion of Superheroes #1 by Paul Levitz and Francis Portela
    Is that right? Super-Heroes used to be hyphenated. I haven’t enjoyed Levitz’s work so far as much as I hoped, but I’ll definitely give it another shot here.

  37. Teen Titans #1 by Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth, and Norm Rapmund
    Heck no. I applaud the DC efforts to go younger, but this looks like someone got the directive to aim young as it applied 20 years ago. And I can’t buy Wonder Girl as a “powerhouse thief”.

  38. Static Shock #1 by John Rozum, Scott McDaniel, and Jonathan Glapion
    Heck yes! Go Virgil!

  39. Hawk and Dove #1 by Sterling Gates and Rob Liefeld
    Well, that’s a bit contradictory — the message is “new, young readers”, but this artist choice only makes sense on the book if you remember the first relaunch. Still, it certainly got people talking. Maybe, especially once the real artist gets put on the book.

So, that’s 39 out of 52 titles announced so far, with Superman books still to come. I’m definitely getting 8 out of the books, with another 9 maybes. 17 out of 39 is 44%, which is a darn good ratio, I think. Certainly more than I look forward to now. It remains to be seen what my track record is three and six months in, but I’m still hopeful.

Update: Seven more books announced today, June 9.

  1. The Edge:
    Stormwatch #1 by Paul Cornell and Miguel Sepulveda
    Yay, a Cornell book I will read. Yes.

  2. Blackhawks #1 by Mike Costa and Ken Lashley
    War comics aren’t for me, sorry, especially when plugged by advertising it features “the latest in cutting-edge hardware and vehicles”.

  3. Sgt. Rock and the Men of War #1 by Ivan Brandon and Tom Derenick
    Nope, not here either, although I do wonder about a war comic that pit soldiers against “the DC Universe’s super-villains”. That seems to be missing the point a bit.

  4. All-Star Western #1 by Justin Gray, Jimmy Palmiotti, and Moritat
    I didn’t like their Jonah Hex and its frequent rapes before, and I don’t expect to like it with a new title.

  5. Deathstroke #1 by Kyle Higgins, Joe Bennett, and Art Thibert
    Not for me, although there is an audience for this kind of thing, especially among teenage boys.

  6. Grifter #1 by Nathan Edmondson, CAFU, and BIT

  7. OMAC #1 by Dan DiDio, Keith Giffen, and Scott Koblish
    I refuse to read any comic with DiDio listed as a creator. They’re horrible. Nice perk to running the company, though.

So that brings the tally up to 9 yes, 18 yes/maybe total, out of 46. I’ve dropped to 39% I’m interested in, but that’s ok. If they really aim to be diverse, no one should want to read all the books anyway.

Update: Wait, there’s two more, which leaves only four left, likely all Superman books.

  1. Suicide Squad #1 by Adam Glass and Marco Rudy
    What happened to the idea that female characters needed to be costumed reasonably? Clearly not a book for me.

  2. Blue Beetle #1 by Tony Bedard, Ig Guara, and Ruy Jose.
    This, on the other hand, is great to see. I enjoyed the John Rogers series a lot, and I hope Bedard can capture some of the magic of the fully realized supporting cast.

Update: And the last batch were promoted today, June 10. As expected, they were the Superman titles.

  1. Action Comics #1 by Grant Morrison and Rags Morales
    Superman’s back as the “first super hero”, which may explain why there’s no Justice Society title. Frankly, I’d be more excited if I hadn’t been doing this all week — and the longer I think about this relaunch, the more I resent losing Oracle and what she meant to people. So I’m no longer the optimistic customer I was.

  2. Superman #1 by George Perez and Jesus Merino

  3. Supergirl #1 by Michael Green, Mike Johnson, and Mahmud Asrar
    Deaged again, it seems, because teenage girls are easier to cope with than grown women.

  4. Superboy #1 by Scott Lobdell, R.B. Silva, and Rob Lean.
    Lobdell again? Must be nice to be buddies with the guy now running editorial.

How about you? Which are you looking forward to? And will you be buying in print or digitally?

43 Responses to “DC Relaunch Titles I’m Looking Forward To (And Why I Don’t Care for the Others)”

  1. Joshua Says:

    DC Relaunch titles I’m looking forward to:

  2. Eric Rupe Says:

    I was actually flipping through Previews before I read this post and was reminded that Liefeld is also launching a new series at Image with Kirkman in August so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s off before the first issue ships.

    So far, I’m definitely gettings the first issues of Wonder Woman and Batwoman and I’m curious about Swamp Thing, Demon Knights and Frankenstein but there are a good number of series I want to try out just to see how bad they might be if I have the money, primarily Hawkman which I think could only sound worse if Jeph Loeb was somehow involved.

  3. Thad Says:

    Having a really hard time giving a crap about anything but Batwoman. Maybe Frankenstein.

    Knew that eventually Morrison’s brilliant run on Batman would get undone in favor of more boring status-quo stuff, but I’m very disappointed that it happened so soon. Nice that they’re keeping Damian and Batwing around, but not nice enough for me to buy the books.

  4. Stan Hosmer Says:

    I also am very upset over the Batgirl/Oracle/Hawkwoman/Dick Grayson Batman news. I have very much enjoyed Dick as Batman, more than I have enjoyed Bruce in years. Having him mentor Damian has been great. I was never a Birds of Prey reader, I was still boycotting the post Crisis Huntress (yes, I hold a grudge when you kill my favorite heroine…remember that DC!), but the Stephanie Brown Batgirl really got me to want to read more or Oracle’s stories. Now, there will be a Birds of Prey without the key element, Oracle! First DC messes with the Spirit in some alternate earth with Doc Savage and Batman, now this? Batman Inc is not listed, does this mean Grant Morrisson is done with DC? Also, what effect will this relaunch have on Jonah Hex? Im my opinion, the way to bring in new readers would be to cut back on year long multi title story arcs. It’s all just to confusing and intimidating to new readers. I know that I personally would pick up more “impulse” books if they were self contained stories, or minor arcs.

  5. Ralf Haring Says:

    The only new series that really captured my interest was Azarello and Chiang on Wonder Woman. Dr. 13 was superb.

    It’s a shame Peter Milligan is working on blood-vomit red lanterns with horrible T&A artist Ed Benes. Huge waste of his time. JL Dark’s (ugh to the name) milieu at least seems to play to his strengths. I don’t know the artist on that series.

    Batwoman has been on my to-buy list since Rucka and Williams hit the previous stories out of the park. Rucka’s non-involvment is troubling, but Williams is one of the few artists I’ll suffer through a mediocre story for. Here’s hoping.

    I hope they can make Aquaman work better than he has in the past. The only time I’ve picked up his stories was the Jurgens/Epting run. The character’s been around so very long, it’s a shame he rarely ever clicks. (ditto Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Captain Marvel, etc.) Johns has at least been more or less successful in re-energizing the Flash (back when he was first starting at DC) and Green Lantern franchises, but I won’t be picking this up out of the gate.

    The # of books written by Scott Lobdell is bizarre. Clearly must have been Harras’ or Lee’s influence. I haven’t seen his name since the late 90s.

    Swamp Thing … just let it go. The character’s poison since Alan Moore. Stop trying to revive the book. It’ll always just compare unfavorably to the Moore run.

    Frankenstein. You’re really surprised they spun this off? I thought his mini was superb (and fairly detached from the core plot of Seven Soldiers). I expected a follow up much earlier than this, but SSoV came out in 2005. So this is just another example of DC striking while the iron is very, very cool. Jeff Lemire seems to be getting good word of mouth, but I have never read anything by him so he’s just another name to me.

    So … one book I was getting anyway (Batwoman) and one other book (Wonder Woman) so far. DC has doubled the number of books I’m getting!

  6. Ralf Haring Says:

    Stan, Morrison’s Batman Inc run will end with #10 and then later next year there will be a 12 issue miniseries to wrap up his Leviathan storyline. It seems an adequate way to have their cake (reboot everything now) and eat it too (not stop successful story that still has at least a year of stories to tell).


    I just read the first six issues of Batman & Robin due to DC’s glacially slow collection schedule so the funky scheduling won’t really affect me. Yay?

  7. James Schee Says:

    I’ll play!

    The Big Guns:
    Justice League #1 by Geoff Johns and Jim Lee

    I’m curious enough to give it a chance, just to see what all the characters place in new status quo is if nothing else.

    Wonder Woman #1 by Brian Azzarello and Cliff Chiang
    See my take on this on the other thread, but yeah I’m in. Gotta say, kind of dull cover for a #1 though.

    Aquaman #1 by Geoff Johns and Ivan Reis
    Maybe, if its Aquaman anything like what I saw in the Flashpoint mini I flipped through(a monster) then no though.

    The Flash #1 by Francis Manapul and Brian Buccellato
    Doubtful for me, art looks nice but I have no connection to the character.

    The Fury of Firestorm #1 by Ethan Van Sciver, Gail Simone, and Yildiray Cinar

    I only know Firestorm from the old Super Powers cartoon, so I’m curious enough to at least check it out.

    The Savage Hawkman #1 by Tony Daniel and Philip Tan

    I have never seen the appeal of Hawkman

    Green Arrow #1 by JT Krul and Dan Jurgens

    Only time I ever found GA interesting, his name was Connor.

    Justice League International #1 by Dan Jurgens and Aaron Lopresti

    I think it’ll be interesting to see if, given the relaunch, Booster loses his “everyone else must think he’s an idiot” mission statement. I’ll read it, but I wish they had someone known for instilling more humor doing some part of it.

    Mister Terrific #1 by Eric Wallace and Roger Robinson

    Ditto what you said, Mr. Terrific was one of the few things in Geoff Johns JSA that just hit for me.

    Captain Atom #1 by JT Krul and Freddie Williams II
    It honestly sounds like DC trying to do Watchmen a little bit here, with Captain Atom sounding like a Doctor Manhatten pitch. Pass

    DC Universe Presents #1 by various

    Deadman has never interested me either, but future stories could be to my liking.

    Green Lantern #1 .
    Green Lantern Corps #1
    Green Lantern: The New Guardians #1

    I like the books well enough to try, be kind of interesting to see Kyle Rayner as leader of a group of heroes. Plus there’s been some speculation that someone other than Hal may be lead in the home book to start. (I doubt it, but Sinestro might be fun)

    Red Lanterns #1
    vomiting grosses me out in movies, and does in comics as well, so no.

    The Batman books:
    Batman #1 by Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo
    Detective Comics #1 by Tony Daniel
    Batman and Robin #1 by Peter Tomasi and Pat Gleason
    Batman: The Dark Knight #1 by David Finch and Jay Fabok

    Like I said in the on the thread I haven’t read a book starring Batman in a long time so I want to see if any of these might be one. (I honestly miss the Batman Adventures series, those were the best Batman comics)

    Apparently Batman Inc. will start in early 2012 according to the DC blog, so I guess if none of the other series appeal to me I can try that then.

    The Bat-Women:
    Batwoman #1 by J.H. Williams III, Haden Blackman, and Amy Reeder

    I’m curious about it, as I want it to be more than “look its a lesbian superhero!” that the media attention kept pointing out.

    Batgirl #1 by Gail Simone, Ardian Syaf, and Vicente Cifuentes

    Here’s the thing for me on this, I really like Stephanie too, and I like Oracle. Yet I can’t complain about comics being too insular and complicated and then gripe when the insular and complicated things I happen to like are changed. So I’m willing to give it a try. One of my favorite ever DC miniseries was Batgirl YO, and I hope this can provide that type of story.

    Plus if she has to become Oracle again, I’m betting it’ll be much better started then the garbage(beautifully drawn, but garbage) that was Killing Joke. (which finally gets ignored, yay)

    Catwoman #1 by Judd Winick and Guillem March
    I actually wondered for a second if Balent was back, given size and porn star posing. The New DC, women have to wear pants, but we can still show boobs! pass

    Birds of Prey #1 by Duane Swierczynski and Jesus Saiz
    Nightwing #1 by Kyle Higgins and Eddy Barrows

    I want to try these because they star some of my favorite characters, and they are by writers who are new. (to me at least)

    Red Hood and the Outlaws #1 by Scott Lobdell and Kenneth Rocafort

    I’m starting to think that Jason Todd is one of those concepts, sort of like the 4th World characters tho not nearly as imaginative, that comic creators seem to love but readers never buy.

    Batwing #1 by Judd Winick and Ben Oliver

    It just looks ridiculous from the cover, and unless I just hear a hell of a concept pitch I can’t see myself trying it with so much out there.

    Swamp Thing #1 by Scott Snyder and Yannick Paquette
    I just don’t get the appeal of the character.

    Justice League Dark #1 by Peter Milligan and Mikel Janin
    curious… mainly because I just find it hilarious to think of John Constantine starring in a book with Justice League in the title.

    Animal Man #1 by Jeff Lemire, Travel Foreman, and Dan Green
    I was dubious at first but the interview with the writer made me curious.

    Demon Knights #1 by Paul Cornell, Diogenes Neves, and Oclair Albert

    Again interview with writer made me curious, as I expect to see Sir Justin and others costarring. It is one of those I want to try the first issue to see if it grabs me books.

    Frankenstein, Agent of Shade #1 by Jeff Lemire and Alberto Ponticelli
    Resurrection Man #1 by Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning, and Fernando Dagnino
    I, Vampire #1 by Josh Fialkov and Andrea Sorrentino

    Passing on these, just not interested in concepts, I liked RM the first time but just don’t see a point in revisiting it.

    Voodoo #1 by Ron Marz and Sami Basri

    Ron’s a friend so I feel a need to give this a look. Curious to see if they maintain the stripper origin or not. Beauty that hides an ugliness (turning into a reptillian alien) could make for something interesting we’ll see.

    Legion Lost #1 by Fabian Nicieza and Pete Woods

    Is it me or does the cover try to ape the original Lost mini? The art reminds me of Copiel’s scratchiness art of that time, and even the characters look sort of like that era. Someone pointed out to me it was Chamaleon Girl (Collosal Boy’s wife) but she looked like Monstress to me. Its a get tho.

    Legion of Superheroes #1 by Paul Levitz and Francis Portela

    I’ve liked Paul’s run so far, glad its the one book the least changed according to Dido.

    Teen Titans #1 by Scott Lobdell, Brett Booth, and Norm Rapmund

    Am I the only one shocked this wasn’t called Young Justice? Its one of those I want to try because i liked Tim Drake a lot, but don’t think it’d be a long term series for me. (what’s up with the bug lady? they bringing back Insect Queen?)

    Static Shock #1 by John Rozum, Scott McDaniel, and Jonathan Glapion

    Curious about it as I liked the original series a lot.

    Hawk and Dove #1 by Sterling Gates and Rob Liefeld
    I would be curious about trying his, if I thought there was anyway there would be 3 issues of it put out in a year.

    So let’s see…. 24 titles, a little lower than what I had originally thought. I would prefer to get these digitally on my new Ipad 2 I’ll have at the time. Yet given price don’t know if that will happen, especially if someone like DCBS offers a great deal or something.

    Superman titles are coming, rumored to be 2 for him one written by Grant Morrison and the other by George Perez. Both I’d get if so. Superboy’s been pretty much confirmed by Lobdell in an interview, not much interest there. Supergirl it’ll depend on the creative team and direction.

    I wonder if Power Girl will get a title or even still be around in “Easier to understand” DC. Same question goes for Huntress too though, who was notably absent on BOP cover. Will DC use this as a time to fix the Captain Marvel family as well?

  8. Johanna Says:

    Good point there at the end, James. Print comics have a fairly well-established discount system — if you preorder, you usually get a substantial percentage off — but digital doesn’t. So for many readers, these prices mean that online is MORE expensive than print.

  9. Joshua Says:

    As far as Aquaman, I like the Batman: Brave & the Bold cartoon take on him, Aquaman as if he were played by Brian Blessed.

    For Oracle, I wouldn’t mind seeing her as somebody other than the former Batgirl, divorced from the whole Killing Joke mess. If you want a message about diversity, a paraplegic who decides to fight crime with her smarts seems to be the important thing, not that she used to dress up in tights.

  10. James Schee Says:

    Yeah & I see many people saying they want them for 99 cents but I just don’t see this happening. I’d be fine with $1.99 for new and then 99 cents for older comics.

    No one pays retail for basically anything these days, its all about the discount especially for anything online. Yet for some reason comic publishers think we will for digital comics.

  11. Rob Barrett Says:

    What I’ll get from the confirmed list:

    Wonder Woman (Cliff Chiang rules!)

    Mr. Terrific (one of my favorite JSA characters–and possibly the only part of the JSA to make the relaunch)

    Green Lantern (I actually like Johns’s take on Hal, and Mahnke’s art is stupendous)

    Swamp Thing (I have faith in Snyder and Paquette)

    JL Dark (I have faith in Milligan on these characters)

    Demon Knights (I have faith in Cornell, plus it’s medieval Justice League)

    Static Shock (I like John Rozum, and I want to keep following him after Xombi’s inevitable cancellation)

    OMAC (Didio is a turn-off, but with Giffen as co-writer and Giffen on the art, I’ll try this one out–love Giffen’s cover)

    What I’ll get from the rumored list:

    Superman and Action Comics (Perez and Morrison, sold)

    Looking like 10 books for me. That’s a gain of 2 books from my current DC pull list. (I don’t count Brave and the Bold since that’s my daughter’s comic–I just pay for it.)

    If a JSA title is forthcoming, I’ll get that as well. I wonder what the all-ages plans are; it would be nice to have something a little less TV-show dependent going forward.

  12. David Oakes Says:

    I started to edit all the titles together, do some math, get some percentages…

    But nothing here *excites* me, you know? I will get Demon Knights for Cornell, but even his name and a fondness for J’onn *and* Apollo and Midnighter makes me think I will pick up Stormwatch. There are characters I am glad to see in books (Sgt Rock, Static), but I have no faith in the “new” concepts.

    The rest of the books seem evenly split between “Change for Change’s Sake” (Hi-collar JLA, now with Real World Racial Diversity), and “Welcome to 1986 – We love it, and you will too!” I bought Rob Liefield on Hawk&Dove. I bought Animal Man. Babs was my first Batgirl, too. But I just don’t see the point.

  13. Anthony Says:

    Given I’ve avoided mainstream DC (and stuck with Johnny DC titles) for quite awhile, guess it took *this* (a reboot) to make me remotely consider buying mainstream-DCU books again. Still (for reasons outlined by me previously/on my blog), feeling lukewarm at best toward all of this.

    What I’ll be buying:
    – Superman
    – Action Comics

    What I’ll consider buying:
    – Mr. Terrific

    Morrison I enjoyed on “All Star Superman”, so I trust him to do well on the “real” Superman title. Perez on a Superman title also sounds interesting…

    Mr. Terrific is one of the few newer characters I enjoyed (in what limited exposure I’ve had to him), but this one’s on the “maybe” list pending what the tone will be like (still don’t trust the “new DC” to be different tone-wise from the current one, per what vibes I’m getting…).

    As for the others….

    Superboy’s “Teen Titans” costume looks utterly awful (didn’t think his “meh” “t-shirt and jeans” look would actually look *good* in comparison).

    Not a big horror, western or war comic fan, but glad to see those genres represented (though DC seems to be trying to force them into their superhero setting, and/or coercing its buyers into being interested in their superheroes…).

    Admit I’m used to Barbara as, well, Batgirl, though might stem from A) avoiding the modern bat-books like the plague, B) never liking “The Killing Joke”, and C) most of my Barbara exposure (like most of my Batman exposure in recent years) being in non-comics media (*every* other media save the DCU books—the TV cartoons, movies, even “Tiny Titans”—show Barbara as Batgirl, not Oracle, save the short-lived “Birds of Prey” show apparently six people watched). Thus, little attachment to Babs-as-Oracle from me…

    Superman as the world’s first superhero sounds nice to me, though wonder what this means for the JSA (back on a revised-again Earth-2, maybe?)

    Print or digital: will probably buy these digitally, misgivings about their DRMed digital formats aside. Trying to save apartment space by going digital as much as feasible lately, though open to buying the new “Action” #1/”Superman” #1 as a paper book…

  14. chad Says:

    defintly looking forward to the suicide squad though would have loved to have ostrada back plus swamp thing and some of those titles dealing with the mystic characters like demon knight for love Etrigan. the batman books just batgirl and batwoman and the main batman titles. for batgirl want to see how gail has oracle move around like is the suit a exoskelton.

  15. D. Peace Says:

    I look forward to WONDER WOMAN. Why did you say you’re leaning towards negative on Azzarello? Also, it may seem like BATMAN is a lost cause with that Spawn guy on art but I have faith in Scott Snyder. Have you been reading his arc on ‘TEC? It’s really good. So good, in fact, that I’m also looking forward to seeing what he brings to the table on SWAMP THING, as well. He is an up-and-comer so don’t snooze.

    Speaking of SWAMP THING, I am, as a fan of Vertigo and WildStorm comics before I’m a fan of standard-bearer DCU comics, that this relaunch has some promising stuff for fans of the now-defunct WS line and also anyone looking forward to seeing the Vertigo characters integrated into the DCU. Most of the books in the “Dark” and “Edge” families have creative teams that seem to be logical choices. STORMWATCH gets Paul Cornell, JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK gets Peter Milligan, even the GRIFTER book gets a rising writer whose recent Image release is all about covert espionage. JONAH HEX, ANIMAL MAN… all seem good to go.

    This pleases me because I truly thought the WildStorm stuff was lost forever. I wasn’t expecting any of it back in any way. These creative teams seem very logical, like they actually put thought into it.

    Stuff about the launch I don’t like:

    It bugs me that Scott Lobdell and Rob Liefeld are on-board but I guess that’s the doing of Bob Harras, right? Some of the DC heroes solo books are kind of blah and the Batman books are hit or miss and probably more “miss”. And does JT Krul still have a job?? Seriously?!?

    You take your good with your bad, I suppose. I agree that Babs being out of the wheelchair is a step backward… we need strong diverse characters. But isn’t Gail Simone just about the absolute best choice to be writing her? Could it truly be a disaster if Gail’s doing it? Also, you mentioned being on-board with BIRDS OF PREY but, man, Duane Swiercynski is the absolute definition of a hack IMO. His prose work is trashy crime pulp and his run on MOON KNIGHT was garbage unparalleled. So… some thumbs up, some thumbs down.

    Overall, not too shabby. I got some pleasant surprises, I have to say.

  16. D. Peace Says:

    One more thought: Isn’t Grant Morrison’s plan for ACTION a bit… lacking in ambition? I mean, relative to most Morrison comics.

    In terms of theme and concept, I wonder if Morrison’s still got what he used to. Superman as a Golden Era-style champion of the populace seems more in line with a more conventional, journeyman approach. Grant Morrison is the guy who punctures holes in the walls of the space-time continuum, grabs you whether you’re ready for it or not, and pulls you into a world where all your expectations are subverted and your perception opens wide up. THIS… sounds alright and I’m sure I’ll try it anyway but it’s hardly pushing the envelope. Am I asking too much? Do you remember what it was like the first time you read his DOOM PATROL? I miss that.

  17. Johanna Says:

    Anthony, I share your concerns about tone and forcing superheroes into other genres — but that’s what DC does now. Other companies handle other genres straight much better. Your points about Batgirl Barbara being what’s known in other media are well taken. I suspect that’s motivating much of this reboot, streamlining the properties to match what’s known about the characters or to make them more attractive for other media exploitation.

    D, I haven’t cared for the grittier crime stuff I’ve read from Azzarello. Joker and 100 Bullets were quite unpleasant, and projects like Cage just misguided.

    As for Morrison — he may want to avoid becoming a parody of himself by showing not everything he does has to be about wild, mad ideas.

  18. James Moar Says:

    Morrison does often take the approach of stripping a character/series down to what he sees as making it distinctive and building on that. The Action Comics pitch would fit with that, this time working with the Golden Age concept of Superman where All-Star works with the Silver Age version.

  19. D. Peace Says:

    Good point about Morrison. Maybe this is a new direction for him. I would welcome that, except that it seems more a rehash than a brand-new idea but he’ll probably surprise me anyway.

    And that’s a good observation about Morrison’s Superman comics representing the Silver Age Superman versus the Golden Age Superman.

  20. kris larsen Says:

    The very first comics I read were “Sgt. Rock” and “GI Combat.” My buddy and I would have then hidden behind our sheet music in band class so we could read them while playing. I just looked at the promo for Sgt. Rock and I’m not so excited – no war-weary “old man” but a young mercenary?

  21. Jim Perreault Says:

    There’s not much that I’m liking here. Oracle has always been the heart of Birds Of Prey. Without her, it’s a completely new book.

    I’m disappointed there’s no JSA book. Given Johanna’s Superman comment, I wonder if they are going to go with the “Smalville” continuity where the JSA was a secret society that no one ever heard of. Meh!

    Of the list, I’m mildly interested in the following:

    Firestorm Because of Simone’s involvement
    Mister Terrific Because I’ve liked Wallace’s work in the past
    Wonder Woman Azzarello might have an interesting take on the character.

    Normally, I would expect to like a Morrison Superman, but the “world that doesn’t trust their first Super Hero” comment suggests a direction I’m not interested in.

    Bottom line, I don’t expect to be reading any of these titles, although I’ll probably continue reading Green Lantern because I like John’s take on the character.

  22. Jim Perreault Says:

    I forgot to mention Hawk and Dove<. I was a big fan of the original series, but the current work with the characters shares little with the Kesel’s original vision.

    I’ve been extremely disappointed with the handling of Dove. She acts more like Don Hall than Dawn Granger and has been nowhere near as capable as she was in the original series.

    So I’ll probably pass on this one as well.

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  25. Grant Says:

    When has Catwoman ever not been a book about a sexy character to oogle? Ever since her reinvention at the hands of Miller when she went from interesting society woman with mental instability to the terribly cliche “hooker/thief with a heart of gold”, the sex angle has been played up ad nauseum. And I’m not just talking about Balent. So I’m not getting the angry reaction to this new book that is clearly more of the same. If the art is decent, I’ll get it.

    I thought the Frankenstein segment of Seven Soldiers was great. If they have the same artist that drew him before, I’ll definitely be on board. However, I do not like the Flashpoint Frankenstein thing. The art is horrible.

    Other #1’s I’m going to check out…

    Captain Atom. I love the original Ditko version and the Cary Bates series from the 90s. However, the solicit for this makes it sound like they’re trying to turn Captain Atom into Dr. Manhattan. I know Atom was a loose template for Moore’s character, but Atom was always light hearted fun. We’ll see. I like the character so I’ll give it a chance. I just hope they bring back Nightshade as his love interest.

    Superman. Only because Perez is on it. Hopefully he’ll last more than 6 issues before he bails. The only other person that could draw me to Superman is Gary Frank.

    Firestorm. This is a buy. I’ve always liked Firestorm.

    Dark Justice League. I agree with you all the way on this. The cast of characters sounds intriguing. Hopefully it will have better luck than other Magic themed books usually do.

    BOP. I like the idea of Poison Ivy on the team so that’s a yes.

    Wonder Woman. Definitely. But I am really sick of the “angry warrior” thing. Really, really, really sick. Hope they go in a different direction, otherwise, I’m out.

    Resurrection Man. Hell yes. Abnett and Lanning? Double hell yes.

    Black Hawk. I’m too big a fan of the old stories to not give this a try.

    Suicide Squad. The classic “Dirty Dozen” premise is just too inherently entertaining for me to not give this a try. But I miss Ostrander.

    Voodoo. Hmm. Ok.

    Justice League International. More inclined to check this one out than I am “Justice League”. But I’ll give both a shot.

    Hawkman. I want to like Hawkman but no one has done a decent job with this character since the Kubert days. Although the Wednesday Comics entry was pretty awesome as well. I’ll give it a shot.

    Mister Terrific. Depends on the art.

    Batgirl. Yes. Actually, I was rather apathetic about this one. I like Millers current Batgirl and I like Barbara Gordon. But when the pro Oracle fan rage went beyond the pale and they started to hurl names at Simone like “ableist sellout”, and after reading Gails response to Pantozzi’s essay (which puts a big period at the end of the whole discussion), I decided I wanted this to succeed all the way. I might even buy two.

    Over all, I hope this works. I was never a big fan of the majority of DC stuff but I admit I’m excited about some of the new titles and interested in seeing how this all plays out. And the over all, mindbogglng fan rage directed at DC and the bludgeoning they’re taking at the hands of Marvel has now made them the underdog in my eyes.

    But to be clear, I still prefer Marvel. ;)

  26. Jim Perreault Says:

    Can you post a link to Gail’s response?


  27. Johanna Says:

    Grant, it seems that you missed Ed Brubaker’s run on Catwoman, which was a wonderful treatment of her as a three-dimensional woman, not eye candy. Otherwise, yeah, this is the kind of behavior an underdog needs to engage in to make a play for a better ranking.

  28. Grant Says:

    The comic isn’t out yet. And I read Brubaker and Stewarts run and to say that there was never any sexualizing of catwoman the entire time is preposterous. I have the trades and I’ll be more than happy to do a page by page with you.

    It seems like you’re trying hard not to like it based on not seeing the comic, typical solicit blurb hyperbole and a zipper that’s been much lower than the one shown on the cover. Maybe we should actually read the comic and then start with the indignant fan thing. I know that’s not how it’s usually done in comic world, but what the heck. Lets be reckless.

  29. Grant Says:


    Here you go…


  30. Johanna Says:

    Grant, I didn’t say she was never sexualized. I said that run treated her with more than just objectification, in contrast to your point that she was always handled that way.

    DC has put out these images and blurbs to get attention and ramp up excitement. It’s perfectly fair to say “no, that’s not attractive or interesting to me”. We can’t buy everything, so we have to make decisions (especially in a pre-order environment) based on the info we have.

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    Not looking forward to Wonder Woman with
    Azarello and Chiang. Azarello has said a
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    I’m afraid we’ll get a Wonder Woman that
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    the Brave and Bold looke like a stick figure: narrow shoulders, skinny arms and legs and not much of a figure.

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