Comments on: Justice League #1: The DC New 52 Week One http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/ Independent Opinions on Comics of All Kinds Fri, 06 Mar 2015 13:37:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1 By: Four Months In, DC Makes Some Major Adjustments » Comics Worth Readinghttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-124541 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 01:42:24 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-124541 […] new DC 52, the complete reboot of their superhero comic line that restarted with Justice League #1, began in September 2011, so it’s now four months old. Apparently, that’s provided […]

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By: Tylerhttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-124315 Wed, 04 Jan 2012 03:50:54 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-124315 “Do we have any evidence that this title is attracting new fans, either new to DC or new to comics? The people talking about it are all, by definition based on the discussion locations, already comic fans.”

The combination of DC Universe Online becoming free and the new 52 line coming out near the same time made me decide to give comics a try, and I must say, I am enjoying comics. One of my favorite New 52 titles is Justice League, so far I have only read #1, although I really enjoyed it.

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By: Shawn Hillhttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121641 Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:01:12 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121641 I agree that the Vic Stone story was the most interesting part of the issue; weirdly, it’s been one of the least well-received aspects in other reviews, perhaps attesting to your belief that people are wedded to having him in the Titans instead. Judging from the impending new Titans solicits, though, he’s better off in JL!

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By: Harry R. Hertelhttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121579 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 23:43:54 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121579 My older brother, age 64, was relieved at the launch; he could stop buying DC’s. I’m unsure, since I stopped buying new comics 17 years ago, I’ve had more money for family and Golden Age comics. I did try to pick up last issues for symmetry’s sake. during an August 31 visit to the only comic store left in Eau Claire, I found out that JL #1 had sold out; they got two phone calls and one customer inquiry while I was there. I don’t think there will be longevity of new fans; it smelled more like curiosity and speculation to me. I’ll probably pick up first issues just to see, but any future purchases are likely to come from quarter boxes.

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By: Kennhttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121576 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:25:03 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121576 ITA about JL#1! I recall reacting positively to the announced plan to NOT write stories for future trade collecting, and then this came out. If you want new readers, as DC claims, why not present the new League in its entirety? Or, at the very least, have teaser panels of some other members sprinkled throughout?
And, while I get why Cyborg’s being shoehorned in, why did they not go with Steel (or Hardware, since DC owns Milestone), which would give them the ethnic diversity without tampering with the Wolfman/Perez Titans? And I mention ethnic diversity separately, because there is NO gender diversity on display in the first issue. Wasn’t Victor’s mother a scientist as well? Could he at least have mentioned her?
And why not JLA? They’re producing JLI (and JLD), so there ought to be a reason to differentiate. Does DC hate President Obama?

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By: Johannahttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121570 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:06:08 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121570 That’s a fascinating insight, Jimmy. I hadn’t even thought of the challenges that industry was facing — although I did note that, like comics, greeting cards are $4 and $5 each these days, which seemed quite a lot for what you get. And with cards, I just don’t find digital an adequate substitute, since there’s the whole gift aspect. Thanks for sharing that.

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By: calebhttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121568 Sun, 04 Sep 2011 04:06:34 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121568 Also, the average mainstream comic book takes about as long to read as the average greeting card. Heyo!

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By: jimmy b.http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121549 Sat, 03 Sep 2011 16:25:08 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121549 I work at a greeting card company. Many of the current concerns in manstream comics are similar to the greeting card industry. Aging consumer base, other communication/entertainment options, wanting to support indie (and with cards, big box) retailers while also working to become a relevant and profitable digital presence. With both, it looks like the source product cards/comics are becoming the foundation or gateway for related items that make the real money. Where I work, I would say a lot of care still goes into the card product, that there’s respect and recognition for the role it plays in the company’s success. I don’t see the same thing with comics. And i don’t see a clear digital solution for comics or cards.

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By: Johannahttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121528 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 16:39:00 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121528 We’re already hearing anecdotal evidence about how old-time customers are reacting. All I’m asking for is whether anyone has heard someone say “I’ve never read comics before and I had to get this once I heard about it!” (or similar). But you’re right, if that’s happening, it’ll likely take longer for it to appear — although plenty of mass media sources had the story earlier this week.

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By: Granthttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121526 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 16:09:15 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121526 Since it just came out 2 days ago, no, I don’t know if JL1 is attracting new comic fans. No one does. You know, because it just came out two days ago. And new readers are not likely to have subscribed early. It will be this weeks walk in traffic that will tell the tale and it’s too early for a consensus on that yet.

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By: Westfield Comics Blog » Link Blogging: KC Reviews Justice League #1http://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121524 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:30:55 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121524 […] As he mentioned in his column on Monday, he is going to attempt to review all 52 of DC’s New 52 books at Comics Worth Reading (possibly with help from site administrator Johanna Draper Carlson). That begins now with his review of Justice League #1. […]

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By: Johannahttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121520 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 10:43:44 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121520 Do we have any evidence that this title is attracting new fans, either new to DC or new to comics? The people talking about it are all, by definition based on the discussion locations, already comic fans.

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By: Granthttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121518 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 09:37:54 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121518 “You know that old adage about there not being any bad publicity? I think that the New 52 has become an unfortunate laboratory for testing that.”

And you’re basing that on the first of the 52 which sold out? Okay.

I liked it. True, it did get a little “All Star Batman” for a few brief moments. But I liked the newness of it. I like the idea of all of them meeting for the first time and having the story be free of the crappy old DC baggage. I think DC has finally come to terms with the fact that they suck at continuity. That’s Marvels department. DC characters work better when the stories are more simple, more black and white. I also liked the “Marvels” vibe as we see civilians unfamiliar with superheroes commenting about seeing “more and more of them”. I thought that worked well.

And I think “smart fans” can acknowledge that yes, this is most likely a set up for a movie or a video game, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be entertaining. And while some may leap quickly to the conclusion that not seeing ALL of the characters is a bad thing, that’s really only the cynical side of the coin. If people sort of liked this then they’re going to want to buy the next issues to see the introduction of the other characters. Especially if they’re fans of those other characters that have yet to appear.

I haven’t cared at all about Justice League since the Giffen days. But this JL1 has me curious. It’s a light hearted read and I had no buyers remorse after reading it.

“So, smart fans — who will (and maybe already have, except the publishers refuse to acknowledge this) eventually tire of buying everything multiple times — may just use the New DC as an excuse to finally stop reading”

I’m not entirely sure that DC cares if they get “smart fans”. But I will say that if “long time” DC fans hate this, then that might be a sign that DC is actually doing something right. Just sayin.

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By: Ed Cattohttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121517 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 07:44:20 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121517 I got the combo pack with the digital version – kinda fun.

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By: themaskedndihttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121511 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 02:40:01 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121511 I didn’t mind that half the league was absent. In fact, I didn’t mind the comic, period. It’s just disappointing that the line didn’t launch with something a little more special. I agree that Action Comics would’ve been a great choice. Not expecting a lot of decompression there!

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By: James Scheehttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121510 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 02:20:36 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121510 I thought the issue itself was okay. It wasn’t great, but it wasn’t horrible either. I thought it highlighted the MO’s of Batman and Green Lantern (HJ) fairly well, though it seems a bit light.

To me it just feels off to have this book be the start of the new DCU though. I personally think they would have been better served launching with the title that originally launched the DCU, Action Comics.

I think it would have shown a good nod at history and the future as well, as I think what’s hurt DC is the focus on the big picture. When they did that it made the parts seem unimportant and what I hope for most from the new DCU is a change to make the individual series matter more.

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By: Anthonyhttp://comicsworthreading.com/2011/09/01/justice-league-1/comment-page-1/#comment-121509 Fri, 02 Sep 2011 01:59:48 +0000 http://comicsworthreading.com/?p=21770#comment-121509 As I noted in my own blog review, the JLA’s original origin (in “Justice League of America” #9 in 1962) managed to tell the team’s origin in just one issue (“seven heroes team up to defend Earth from invading aliens, and decide to stick together permanently as a team”).

I suppose this newest retelling might be telling basically the same story (with Darkseid and his minions replacing the Apellaxians), but dragged out over more issues than I suspect new readers are willing to stick around for, if *this* issue didn’t turn them off first ($4 for a 10 minute read (print *or* digital) versus half the cost of streaming-only Netflix for a month/a smartphone game/several songs on iTunes?).

Don’t think it’s “outdated” to expect a basic explanation of the point of this comic (such as who the JLA *are*, why they’re a team, why readers should be buying this vs just renting episodes of “Justice League” for a comparable price, etc.), especially for those who wouldn’t know the Justice League from the American League, aka the new readers that are the supposed goal of all this.

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