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New UltraViolet Digital Copies Annoying Some Customers
October 29, 2011

Green Lantern was the second home video release to carry the UltraViolet cloud-based authentication system for providing digital copies across devices. (Horrible Bosses is the first; both came out the same week, but HB was on Tuesday and GL on Friday.) When I tried UltraViolet, I first had a complete failure, but once my Flixster account was reset, I found the process smooth and easy (aside from having to install yet another application and set up yet another username and password).

My experience hasn’t been shared, with various complaints at that link and in the comments to my review. Many people are upset that they can’t continue using iTunes, since Apple isn’t part of the consortium behind UV. (You can use an iPod or iPad if you go through the Flixster app, apparently. Other major names not participating: Disney and Amazon.) Other users have issues in creating or connecting the two accounts required: Flixster (bought by Warner last May) and UltraViolet, with some technical support of one blaming the other and leaving the customer in limbo.

Currently, only Warner supports the UV system, although Sony will debut its use with the release of The Smurfs on December 2. AP coverage points out that the launch

had a soft start… as Warner Bros. released Horrible Bosses without many of the hoped-for partnerships in place. Several movie studios had intended to launch the UltraViolet system with an array of retailers and gadget makers to form an interconnected web of shared commerce. … In reality, a back-end system to allow such seamless viewing across devices hasn’t been created. The early version of UltraViolet lives inside a walled garden that is owned entirely by one movie studio — in this case, Warner Bros.

Unless you’re very handy with your laptop, there’s no easy way to watch these digital copies on TVs yet — no set-top boxes or game systems support UV — but since the codes are still tied to the purchase of physical media, that’s not a huge hurdle. But as the AP article points out,

So far, studios have had trouble forging partnerships with cable TV operators, online retailers, and other companies that serve up digital movie copies. One problem is that potential partners might have to bear the expense of streaming films to customers without getting the revenue from the initial sale.

Warner is making the codes available on any DVD or Blu-ray purchase going forward, with the plan, eventually, being to skip the need for the plastic discs and just sell UV codes to grant customers access to films. No word yet as to whether that means getting rid of the extras (commentaries, featurettes) that make purchases attractive to buyers like me.

UltraViolet logo

Another downside for consumers: time limitation. The small print on the GL copy I have says that UV access is good for three years. After that point, who knows what happens — the virtual movie just disappears from my “library”?

In the bigger picture, purchases of physical media (such as Blu-ray) are declining. Digital download sales are increasing, but their market increase is only 10% of the physical drop. Customers are believed to be rejecting the idea that you have to rebuy your content on a new system or device, wanting the interoperability that UltraViolet aims to provide.

However, it appears that there’s already a major problem with the system from the studio perspective. A market in selling UltraViolet codes sprang up quickly, with access going for as little as 99 cents. That’s about the same price to rent from Redbox. From a consumer perspective, viewing a movie should cost about a dollar; from a studio perspective, that’s much too devalued, when they sell they own download copies for $15 and the Blu-rays for $35-40.

Similar Posts: Warner Brothers Talks About Plans for UltraViolet, Flixster § Green Lantern Contest Winners, UltraViolet Process Review § Studios Announce UltraViolet, New Shared DRM Scheme § UltraViolet Digital Copies on Sale: Movie Companies Continue to Overvalue Their Product § Digital Copies Through Your Comic Retailer? Witchblade Experiments

114 Responses  
Deep Spaceus writes:  

Forget these user unfriendly attempts at controlling movie studio content. Buy the DVD or Blu-Ray and just rip it. For less that $200 you can get all the hardware and software necessary to rip DVD’s and/or Blu-Ray’s with your computer. Yes, it takes a little time investment, especially for Blu-Ray ripping which can take up to two hours per movie, but that is just your computer doing the work. I have ripped a movie a night (leave the computer running when I go to bed) and have built up a nice collection of digital movies that I can play on my phone, tablet, or computer. I never have to worry about expiration dates, installing special software, or having an internet connection.

I am not stealing anything since I have bought these movies (though I’m sure that there is some legal statement about licensing somewhere which could make me out to be a criminal anyway). Maybe the studios will get a clue. Amazon and Apple sell MP3′s/AAC’s that are not copy protected, and yet they make a profit for the Music industry. The people that are going to steal are going to steal, mostly because they cannot afford to spend the money for the movie. Like the music industry, the film industry is going to have to adjust whether they like it or not. Making things difficult for users is only going to drive people to find other ways.

 
Odalys writes:  

They should go to back to old way to download digital copies! It is require login to a digital locker. That is taken Netflix! I not purchase blu-ray with digital copy in uv format! It should my decision if I want to put I put digital copies in digital locker. We right to choose! I proposal a boycott against ultraviolet digital!!!

 
SRipper writes:  

This format is incredibly useless & annoying. I don’t want to stream my digital copies, I’ve got plenty of hard drive space to store them. I also don’t want to set up 2 different accounts, link them together, download yet ANOTHER bloated piece of software that’s more about commenting on and socializing about movies than watching them. But all that said, I gave it a try when I bought Green Lantern 3D. Complete & total failure. I made the accounts & linked them fine (or so I thought at first at least) I downloaded my digital copies (yes copies, for some reason it also said I was entitled to Green Lantern Emerald Knights) & I opened up the program…. would not play either of them. Just gave me a black screen with a loading icon for hours, yes I left it open for several hours at one point to see if it would play. Tried moving the files and telling it to stream the movies, no good. Tried uninstalling & reinstalling the program, no good. Tried setting it up on my laptop to see if maybe it was a problem with some setting on my desktop, this is when it went to complete crap.

When I tried logging in to the program on my laptop, it only showed Emerald Knights, and not the live Action in my library. Went to the Flixter website, it asks me to log into my Ultraviolet account, which it then doesn’t recognize. I try recovering password, it says I don’t have an account. Try creating an account, it says the e-mail & account name are already in use…. After maybe a half hour trying to figure this out, it finally lets me log in – yes, log in, not create an account – & it tells me I have no movies in my collection. It was about this time that I said to hell with it & deleted both my Flixster & Ultraviolet accounts & set about getting my own digital copy of Green Lantern watchable in iTunes where all my other movies are.

Suffice to say I am not planning on buying any more Blu-Rays that come with Ultraviolet digital copies. Give me iTunes, or I’ll just buy it from them instead of spending the extra money on your disc. I hope this piece of crap service dies a fast, ugly & painful death. When it comes to digital content, Apple is the 800 pound gorilla, they win, you lose- accept it & work with them, cause you’re product sucks!

 
Polly writes:  

Still no word from Flixster support. If this is the way they support their digital copies, I want no part of Flixster. I have submitted two different support tickets, and have even received a robot reply that they received it even though the website said something was sent. I looked at a movie recently in the store, and decided not to buy it once I seen that it was an Ultraviolet digital copy. I have made up my mind to personally boycott movies selling Ultraviolet. I hope other people do the same.

 
Saqib writes:  

I emailed my complaint to consumer@sphecustomersupport.sony.com.

 
carl writes:  

This ultraviolet digital copy thing is just a complete waste of time. The first time i came across it, i thought i was getting a free ditital copy of the film ultra violet. When i did figure out what it was i thought i’d give it a go. Took me ages to get it up and running (took about an hour of typing and re-typing in my account only to find that there was no record of my account, when i did have it running all i got was a blank screen. I’m just going to convert my blu-rays to avi files, much quicker and far easier. By the time you have logged in the conversion will have finished by then anyway. No wonder film companies are making a loss. They blame people for copying films. Yes i do copy them but all the films i have copied i bought. Digital copies are a joke every one i have tried will not play on my phone. Those who choose to copy without buying would probably never buy the film anyway. No doubt the price of your blu rays will go up to pay for this steaming pile of ****.

 
HatersHereIAm writes:  

Ok where’s the hate coming from..I’m guessing all these people have been loyal to apple devices and the iDont following. I have an iDont Touch and Android device I think ultraviolet is the future picking up these 99 cent downloads on eBay and building a movie collection.. I got iTunes digital copies which suck BC you have to have the DVD to use the code…no DVD needed for ultraviolet…if you were smart you would get u Magic DvD ripper n 1 dollar redbox rentals n build ur movie collection and quit whining..

 
Saqib writes:  

You need to do your research. Firstly, while some do need a DVD to transfer the dig copy, the newer ones don’t. Look at paramount and universal. They are download versions, and thereafter you have them stored to be transferred and used offline on whatever ‘iDon’t gadget you have.

Secondly, according to ebay’s rules, those digital codes you are buying are not allowed to be sold. You should ask yourself why people are selling those codes? Cos they think they are not worth the hassle. They figure they are not gonna use them so why not make a quick buck out of them?

 
Hop Comes to Home Video March 23 » DVDs Worth Watching writes:  

[...] digital copy (for a limited time) AND UltraViolet access, since Universal has apparently learned from Warner’s lesson that some customers really don’t like the UV system. There’s also a new [...]

 
Jerry Jarman writes:  

UltraViolet is a scam!!! I have purchased countless of digital copyies before never paying any-mind of the kind I was getting until the day i came across the UltraViolet kind. OMG it has drove me away from the idea of paying extra for a movie when they are going to trick you like that. I contacted support and explained that I didn’t know there was a difference between digital purchases. They where quick to respond. I was kinda shocked that they had everything right to say about the mix up. They asked for my mailing address and said they were going to mail me a iTunes compatible disc. I was so happy! I waited a few days and didn’t ever get a follow-up email saying that they were shipped so I emailed them and asked for a status update… no response…. So finally they show up in the mail!!! It was 2 cd’s for iTunes with a letter stating that I was emailed 2 new codes and I needed them to redeem my movies. I never received them so I tried contacting support again!!!!!!!!!!! No response to this day. I am Pulling my ****ing hair out!!!!

 
Jason Luckhardt writes:  

I bought the GL blu ray dvd and digital copy combo pack, as soon as i put the DVD into the computer, it just played the movie, there was no digital copy version. Email to UV support and within a month had a brand new DVD digital copy in the mail that had the digital copy on it.
Going the extra route of UV seems like a pain and any DVD released should include a digital copy. Blu Ray discs should include digital copies for anyone with a Blu Ray drive in their computer

 
Gronk writes:  

You have no idea what you are talking about with regard to sales of physical media. Blu ray sales have not declined. In fact, such sales increased significantly over the previous year. Where do you get your information? In addition, who buys a blu ray for $35 to $40? That may be the list price but they sell for far less. Just a terrible article – do some research.

 
Johanna writes:  

The information is provided in the linked article. Sounds like you want to take your affront up with them.

 
A. Smith writes:  

I will go out of my way to NOT purchase a Blu-Ray/DVD/Digital Copy combo pack that has a Ultraviolet/Flixster “digital copy”. I’ll either wait for the disc on Netflix or buy just the Blu-Ray disc. Save money AND save hassle.

The problem is that there are SO many ‘accounts’ to sign into to use the service! I now have an Ultraviolet account, a Flixster account, and a Sony Video account.. just to be unsuccessful in getting my digital copies! I’m 1 for 6 for getting a Ultraviolet digital copy to work.

The public is not going to put up with such hassles to get their digital copies that they paid for.

 
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