Comments on: Marvel Spinner Rack: Avenging Spider-Man 1, FF 12, Generation Hope 13

By: Paul O'Brien

Paul O'Brien — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 17:30:11 +0000

Hope’s wikipedia entry makes her look worse than she is; like Cable, her back story is technically horrendous, but very little of it is actually relevant to her stories. All you REALLY need to know about Hope is that she’s the first new mutant born since Wanda wiped most of the mutants’ powers; she grew up in the far future, which is why she isn’t an infant; since she came back, other mutants have started appearing again, but not very many; the new mutants need her to stabilise their powers; and once they’re stabilised, she has some kind of hold over them. She’s obviously important but nobody (including her) really knows why. That’s pretty much it.

By: Joshua

Joshua — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 15:20:27 +0000

On the plus side, the new Generation Hope logo is readable. I swear that every single time I saw the old one, with the X cutout in the O, I read it as Generation Hype. OK, that’s not a big plus…

By: Johanna

Johanna — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:31:15 +0000

Thanks, Caleb. I think Skaar just showed up in Norman Osborne’s Avengers version. I forget which Avengers comic I read that in.

I’m liking Magneto as part of the X-Men, James, but I have to forget some of his history when I read it, because it’s too inconsistent with his super-villain past.

By: James Schee

James Schee — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:14:02 +0000

Oh well that explains why they didn’t look familiar then. lol I’m still wrapping my head around who is who in the main X-books too though. Is kind of funny how Wolverine has grown and looks much more like Hugh Jackman instead of a stubby dwarf.

Sort of odd seeing Xavier not being in charge, walking around and I guess just being a teacher. Has the series moved beyond the conflict of Xavier’s dream, which alway seemed very naive, and Magneto’s nihlism of “get them before they get you”?

Still odd to see Namor hanging around them as well. I know Marvel’s always tried to say he was the first modern mutant, but I never really bought into that.

By: Brian J.

Brian J. — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 05:13:07 +0000

Yeah, FF #12 was a mess. Try as I might I couldn’t tell the three white male youth apart, for starters, and their dialogue didn’t do much to help. Which sucked. I hope it improves because I love the concept.

By: David Oakes

David Oakes — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 04:55:53 +0000

I haven’t picked up FF #12 yet, but the kids’ appearance in Fantastic Four #600 was very nice. Everyone got their character bit, and they actually did something. Hickman’s use of Franklin is nothing new, but it is done in a very honest way. And Leech is getting (back?) some growth, too.

Not enough Dragon Man, though.

By: caleb

caleb — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 04:34:55 +0000

The Hulk’s alien kid is Skaar (not sure of the spelling). He’s green, but has long hair and wears a loincloth. Not sure what book he’s in now. The Red Hulk is actually an old Hulk supporting character, but there was a very long mystery build-up to he he actually was, so I guess I shouldn’t say here.

By: Johanna

Johanna — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 03:12:34 +0000

You won’t recognize any of the Hope characters, James, since they’re all relatively new. That was one of the things I liked about it — a relatively fresh start for the reader, in the midst of one of the longest-running and most convoluted Marvel franchises.

I think the red Hulk is Hulk’s alien kid. I don’t care about any backstory beyond that. :)

By: James Schee

James Schee — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:00:24 +0000

So I’m trying to get back into the X-books, Generation Hope was one I looked at but didn’t recognize a single character on cover so I skipped. Hope Summers looks like a young Jean Grey, but I sort of put that up to artists not knowing how to draw different women?

I then googled her and her wikipage, woof….. I’m used to complicated stuff, hey I started reading the Legion of Super Heroes with V4. Yet that page made my head hurt. She’s basically a female Cable or good who could turn bad Phoenix??

Not for me I guess. Apparently not for you either anymore Johanna.

I did enjoy Avenging Spider-Man a lot though, fun dialogue and nice action. Though I did wonder why there’s a red Hulk, but I’m sorta scared to google him now after what I learned of Hope Summers.:)

By: Johanna

Johanna — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:53:22 +0000

Oh, that’s good to know. I only know what I read about it on Twitter, so I should have known that was suspect.

By: Jay Faerber

Jay Faerber — Mon, 05 Dec 2011 00:42:34 +0000

Last I heard, Joe Mad wasn’t off Avenging Spider-Man. He drew the first 3-issue arc, then there’s a fill-in (which was planned from the start, apparently), then he’ll be back for another arc.